In this episode of Pueblo In Focus, hear from world-renowned sculptor Cliff Fragua (Jemez Pueblo). Cliff will be discussing his sculpture of Po'pay, who led the Pueblo Revolt of 1680 against Spanish colonial powers. This sculpture can be seen in Washington, D.C.'s National Statuary Hall, with another version on display in IPCC's permanent exhibit. Along with his journey of getting his sculpture to the Statuary Hall, Cliff also speaks about his sculpting process and the inspirations behind his art.

00:00 - Intro

01:53 - Singing Stone Studio

04:23 - Importance of Songs

05:26 - Early Life in Missouri

06:28 - First Drawing

07:45 - Life in San Francisco

10:07 - Moving Back to Jemez

10:50 - Institute of American Indian Arts

13:16 - First Discovering Sculpting

15:54 - Leaving IAIA

16:45 - Using Stonework at the Pueblo

19:22 - We’re Natives We Barter

22:58 - First Art Shows

25:29 - The Start of Po’pay Statues

27:34 - Lessons Learned From Italy

29:38 - Researching Po’pay

33:48 - Creating the Look of Po’pay

38:42 - Getting the Stone for Po’pay

41:28 - Welcoming the Stone to Jemez

43:04 - You Can Stay, But We Have to Kill You

47:08 - Getting Po’pay to His New Home

51:40 - An Idea is Born

54:26 - Po’pay Survives Another Insurrection

56:20 - Po’pay Still Speaking Today

57:53 - 2nd Po’pay Statue at IPCC

1:02:59 - Po’pay Represents America

1:15:50 - Outro

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