In this episode of The Hard Country, Joshua Treviño and Ariana Guajardo discuss the first chapter of the forthcoming book of the same name— The Hard Country — setting out the premises of the work, and also its core contention: Fue el Estado, it was (and is) the Mexican state that is at the core of the Mexican crisis.

The Hard Country: The Mexican Crisis and America’s Answers is available now at HardCountryBook.com