<p>On an all new Hard Times Podcast, Botch lead singer Dave Verellen joins Bill to talk the fire fighting, contract work and being treated like a real band in Europe. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.</p>

On an all new Hard Times Podcast, Botch lead singer Dave Verellen joins Bill to talk the fire fighting, contract work and being treated like a real band in Europe. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

The Hard Times Podcast w/ Dave Verellen (Botch)

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The Hard Times Podcast w/ Dave Verellen (Botch)