In this episode, Amy sits down with psychotherapist and author Lisa Gray for a transformative conversation about one of the most misunderstood parts of human connection: conflict.

Lisa explains why most of us were never taught how to handle conflict in a healthy way, and how that lack of skill quietly affects our relationships, workplaces, families, and friendships. Together, she and Amy explore how curiosity, communication, and emotional awareness can turn conflict into something healing instead of something harmful.

In this episode, Lisa and Amy discuss:

• Why avoiding conflict creates distance

• How curiosity can change the outcome of any hard conversation

• Childhood triggers and how they shape conflict styles

• How chronic illness impacts relationships

• Differentiating reaction from healthy response

• Why vulnerability makes conflict easier, not harder

• Tools for navigating conflict at home, work, and in community

Lisa also shares her work supporting couples and individuals with chronic illness, as well as insights from her books and therapeutic practice.

If you struggle with conflict, feel misunderstood, or want to communicate more authentically, this conversation will give you clarity, comfort, and practical tools to begin shifting your relationships.

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