What if accessibility wasn't treated like a checklist—but simply became part of how we care for one another?

In this episode of The Healing Version, Deborah sits down with disability advocate, author, educator, and community leader Jenna Udenberg for an eye-opening conversation about disability, accessibility, inclusion, and the everyday barriers many of us never notice.

Jenna shares why meeting ADA requirements should be the starting point—not the finish line, and how something as simple as a blocked access aisle, an inaccessible bathroom, or a poorly designed entrance can send the message that someone wasn't considered.

They also discuss disability language, asking questions instead of making assumptions, representation, advocacy, and the importance of listening directly to disabled people about their own experiences. As Jenna reminds us, every disability experience is different—and true inclusion begins when we become curious enough to listen.

This conversation will challenge you to look at the spaces around you differently—because once you see the barriers others face every day, you can't unsee them.

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What if the hardest seasons of your life were actually preparing you to become the strongest version of yourself?

In this inspiring episode of The Healing Version, Deborah sits down with licensed trauma therapist Zulma Williams to discuss her remarkable journey from Argentina to the United States, overcoming breast cancer, surviving emotional abuse, battling depression, and building a life dedicated to helping others heal.

Zulma shares how changing one simple question—from "Why me?" to "Why not me?"—transformed her mindset and empowered her to fight for her life. She also offers practical tools for overcoming depression, explains why finding the right therapist matters, and reminds listeners that everyone has already proven they're stronger than they think.

If you've ever questioned your strength, felt defeated, or wondered if healing is possible, this conversation is filled with hope, encouragement, and practical wisdom.

• Moving from Argentina to the U.S. and starting over
• Going back to college in your 40s and pursuing your dreams
• Surviving breast cancer and becoming your own advocate
• Recognizing emotional and verbal abuse
• Breaking free from depression through healthy thought patterns
• Daily exercises to build confidence and self-worth
• Why therapy is for everyone—not just those in crisis
• Discovering the warrior within
• The importance of finding a therapist who is the right fit
• Practical advice for anyone struggling to keep moving forward

🌐 Website: Dragonfly Therapy Services

🎙️ Podcast: Keeping It Real with Zula the Swearing Therapist

📱 Instagram: @theswearingtherapist

Zulma provides virtual therapy services in multiple states and encourages anyone in need of support to reach out. If she's unable to help directly, she'll do her best to connect you with helpful resources.

On this powerful episode of The Healing Version, Deborah sits down with author, speaker, and trauma resiliency coach Susan Snow, whose life changed forever on Halloween night in 1985 when her father, an LAPD detective, was ambushed and killed in the line of duty. What followed was decades of navigating grief, PTSD, emotional masking, and ultimately discovering the path to healing.

Susan shares the heartbreaking reality of losing her father at just 17 years old, the lack of mental health resources available at the time, and how years of untreated trauma impacted every area of her life. She also opens up about finding the right trauma therapist, learning that healing is possible, and reclaiming her power through forgiveness, resilience, and purpose.

This conversation is a reminder that no matter what you've survived, you are not defined by your trauma—and you are never alone.

• Susan's heartbreaking story of losing her father in a targeted assassination
• Living with undiagnosed PTSD for over a decade
• Why finding the right therapist can change your life
• The emotional masks we wear after trauma
• Childhood grief and the importance of being seen
• Healing from trauma without letting it define you
• Forgiveness as a path to freedom
• Taking your power back and choosing resilience

📖 Book: The Other Side of the Gun: My Journey from Trauma to Resiliency (available in paperback, Kindle, and Audible)

🌐 Website: susansnowspeaks.com

Susan also offers free 40-minute discovery calls for those interested in trauma resiliency coaching.

What do you do when life changes overnight?

In this powerful episode of Versions of Healing, Deborah sits down with speaker, author, and resilience advocate Laura Bratton, who began losing her eyesight as a teenager due to a rare retinal disease. Faced with uncertainty, grief, anxiety, and depression, Laura shares how she learned to navigate one of life's most difficult transitions and discovered a new vision for her future.

This conversation is filled with wisdom, hope, and practical encouragement for anyone facing loss, change, uncertainty, or a difficult season of life.

If you've ever wondered how to move forward when life doesn't go according to plan, this episode is for you.

💜 Because healing isn't about pretending everything is okay—it's about finding the courage to keep going, one moment at a time.

🌐 Connect with Laura Bratton: Website: LauraBratton.com

What if the biggest thing standing between you and the life you want is the conversation happening inside your own head?

In this powerful solo episode, Deborah gets real about negative thought patterns, childhood conditioning, trauma, rejection, self-sabotage, and the mindset shifts necessary to create a different future. Through personal stories, honest reflection, and practical strategies, she explores how "stinking thinking" keeps us trapped in cycles that no longer serve us—and how we can break free.

In this episode, you'll learn:

✨ What "stinking thinking" really is ✨ How childhood experiences shape adult beliefs ✨ Why fear, self-doubt, and overthinking keep us stuck ✨ The connection between mindset and missed opportunities ✨ How to identify limiting beliefs and challenge them ✨ Practical steps to rewire your thinking ✨ Why your environment and relationships matter more than you think ✨ How to stop blocking your own blessings

Deborah also shares personal updates on family, entrepreneurship, healing, fishing adventures with her twins, and lessons she's learned while building a life aligned with her purpose.

This episode is sponsored in part by Psychic Source. If you're looking for clarity in your relationships, career, or personal journey, Psychic Source offers trusted psychic advisors available by phone, chat, and video 24/7. Visit https://trypsychicsource.com/hvp to learn more.

Key Reminder: You deserve a mindset that matches the future you're stepping into. Stop letting your past dictate your future. Change your thinking, change your life.

• Mindset
• Trauma Healing
• Self-Sabotage
• Personal Growth
• Inner Child Healing
• Affirmations
• Breaking Cycles
• Entrepreneurship
• Mental Wellness
• Self-Worth

If this episode resonates with you, share it with someone who needs a mindset reset. Subscribe to The Healing Version and stay connected at the website and across social media for more conversations about healing, growth, and becoming the best version of yourself.

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What if manifestation isn't about attracting what you want—but becoming who you're meant to be?

In this enlightening episode of Versions of Healing, Deborah welcomes Latha Jay—spiritual strategist, bestselling author, transformational teacher, and creator of The 24/7 Manifestation Method, releasing October 6, 2026.

Latha shares how identity, nervous system regulation, subconscious beliefs, and emotional healing influence the reality we create. Together, Deborah and Latha explore the connection between manifestation and personal growth, why so many people unknowingly stand in their own way, and how shadow work can help uncover the beliefs that have been running our lives behind the scenes.

If you're ready to stop shrinking, stop second-guessing yourself, and step into the next version of who you're becoming, this conversation is for you.

📱 Connect with Latha Jay: Instagram: @latha_jay_ Website: LathaJay.com

Until next time, keep healing, keep growing, and keep becoming the version of yourself you were always meant to be. ✨

In this powerful episode of The Healing Version, Deborah sits down with transformational guide Desi Dimitrova for a deeply honest and inspiring conversation about healing, surrender, and reconnecting with your inner self.

After surviving a life-altering spinal cord surgery, Desi shares how her journey led her into meditation, emotional healing, and helping other women find clarity and peace within their chaos. Together, we unpack what it truly means to slow down, set boundaries, and pour back into yourself—starting with one simple but powerful question: "What do I need?"

This episode speaks directly to women who feel overwhelmed, disconnected, or stretched too thin—especially mothers navigating healing, growth, and everyday life.

💫 Stay until the end for a guided meditation to help you reset, ground yourself, and reconnect with your heart.

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• 📖 Featured in: Awakened Hearts (Chapter 32)

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In this powerful episode of Versions of Healing, Deborah sits down with holistic skin specialist, licensed aesthetician, certified life coach, and founder of Radiance Coach, Zhanna Gavrilov, for a deep conversation about the emotional roots of skin issues and the connection between acne, stress, self-worth, and inner healing.

With over 25 years of experience in skincare and wellness, Zhanna shares how she combines holistic skincare, nutrition, emotional wellness, mindset work, and lifestyle coaching to help women heal from the inside out. She explains why acne is often more than "just a skin problem" and how the skin can act as a messenger for deeper emotional and physical imbalances.

Zhanna also opens up about her Radiant Skin Wellness Journey, a 90-day online healing program that combines skincare guidance, emotional coaching, meditation, nutrition support, and lifestyle adjustments to help clients transform both their skin and their confidence.

This episode is a reminder that healing is never just surface-level. Sometimes the things we see externally are connected to deeper emotional experiences, stress, and the way we view ourselves. If you've ever struggled with acne, confidence, anxiety, or self-worth, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, understood, and encouraged.

✨ "Healing isn't just what people see — it's also what you believe about yourself." — The Healing Version Podcast

🌐 Radiance Coach Website 📱 Instagram: @radiancecoach 📱 TikTok: @radiancecoach

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In this deeply spiritual and eye-opening episode of The Healing Version, Deborah is joined by Bree Delacruz, an Akashic Records reader and energy healer, for a powerful live reading and transformational conversation.

Bree walks Deborah through an Akashic Records reading—a soul-level experience that explores past lives, spiritual guidance, and future possibilities. Throughout the session, messages from Deborah's spirit team reveal themes of strength, resilience, purpose, and emotional healing.

Key Takeaways:

• The Akashic Records provide insight into your soul's past, present, and potential future paths
• You are supported by a spirit team and loved ones, even when you feel alone
• Energy healing can create powerful physical and emotional shifts
• Being the "strong one" for others requires learning how to receive support too
• Your life experiences are part of your purpose—your story can heal others
• Protecting your energy and setting boundaries is essential for growth

If this episode resonated with you, share it with someone on their spiritual journey 💫 Subscribe, leave a review, and stay connected with the Healing Tribe for more real, raw, and transformative conversations.

In this powerful and deeply reflective episode of The Healing Version, Deborah sits down with Cristiano Colla—a former personal trainer turned spiritual storyteller—to explore the journey from chasing perfection to embracing authenticity.

Cristiano shares how his life shifted after a transformative experience in the Peruvian jungle, where he worked with ayahuasca to confront childhood trauma, emotional wounds, and limiting beliefs.

Key Takeways:

• Perfection is an illusion—true growth comes from embracing imperfection
• Childhood wounds (like abandonment) often shape adult relationships
• Shadow work is about self-awareness, not self-judgment
• Triggers are mirrors—they reveal what needs healing within
• Overthinking can block your purpose—learning to trust your body and intuition is key
• Healing is your responsibility, even if the pain wasn't your fault

🔗 Connect with Cristiano:

• Substack: The Hybrid Soul Blog (poetry, shadow work, spirituality)
• Substack: Oniric Lives (dream exploration & interpretation)
• Book: Amazon