What’s really going on in your heart? In this first episode of The TruthBehind the Sermon, Tray sits down with Perry and Ryan to unpack Exodus 4:21–31 and Perry’s message, “If You Are Interested in Getting to the Heart of the Matter…”

Together, they talk about how God reassures, softens, and even corrects our hearts so we can walk in His purpose. From Pharaoh’s hardened heart to Moses’ struggles, the conversation explores what it means to let God shape us from the inside out. With honesty, laughter, and practical encouragement, this episode invites you to ask: What is God doing in my heart today?