This episode of Time for Impact is a masterclass in challenging the "we’ve always done it this way" mentality. Join us as we sit down with Elena Laguna, a veteran leader in the sector (St John Ambulance, British Red Cross), to dismantle the rigid structures of traditional volunteering and replace them with a model built on agency, outcome, and inclusion.

The Hermit Crab Philosophy: We discuss the fascinating way hermit crabs collaborate to ensure everyone has a shell that fits. In the volunteering world, we often try to force people into "pre-made shells" (rigid roles) that don't fit their lives. Elena challenges us to look at the vacancy chain model: how can we, as managers, facilitate an ecosystem where volunteers find the "shell" that fits their unique needs and agency?

Elena argues that the industry’s obsession with micro-volunteering—tiny, bite-sized tasks—often misses the point. The real goal should be Flex Volunteering. It’s not just about the length of time; it’s about giving volunteers the agency to shape their own opportunities. When we offer predefined solutions, we often fail to meet the human on the other side.

How do you balance structure with freedom? Elena uses a brilliant analogy: Curation.

• The Walls: The essential structure (safety, legal, core goals).

• The Paintings: The individual experience, which should be as diverse and unique as the volunteers themselves.You need the walls to have a museum, but the museum shouldn't dictate how you look at the art.

Charities sometimes position themselves as the "heroes" arriving to solve a community's problems. Elena challenges this: the most impactful organisations act as convenors and enablers, helping communities find and lead their own solutions.

We dive into why "presumed best practice"—like rigid role descriptions and standard policies—can actually be an enemy of Inclusion and Diversity. If your process doesn't flex, it excludes.

Elena suggests:

• Shift focus from Activity to Outcomes.

• Compete with Netflix: People’s time is scarce. If we aren't intentionally innovating, we are losing to the leisure sector.

• Elena Laguna on LinkedIn: Follow Elena here to read her latest articles on flex-volunteering and impact.

• Camarados: Learn more about their movement and the "Public Living Room" model at camarados.org.

• The HR/Volunteering Exchange: Insights on what these two sectors can learn from one another regarding people management and culture.

Time for Impact is on a mission to modernise the way the world gives time. Beyond these conversations, we offer:

• Modern Consultancy: Strategy for organisations ready to move from process-led to impact-led.

• Training: Equipping managers to modernise volunteering and demonstrate impact

• Measurement Tools: Cutting-edge impact and satisfaction tools to prove (and improve) your value.