In this episode, Paul Asadorian and Josh Bressers delve into the complexities of open source supply chain security, discussing the prevalence of open source components in modern software, the challenges posed by legacy systems, and the critical importance of vulnerability management. They explore the regulatory landscape surrounding software liability and the need for better tools and practices to ensure secure product development. The conversation highlights the necessity of understanding dependencies and the implications of consumer security in a market driven by features rather than security. In this conversation, Josh Bressers and Paul discuss the importance of Software Bill of Materials (SBOMs) in enhancing supply chain security and vulnerability management. They explore the role of metadata in programming languages like Go and Rust, the challenges of accurately identifying vulnerabilities through CVEs, and the need for better automation in vulnerability detection. The discussion also touches on the potential of AI in identifying vulnerabilities, the introduction of tools like SIFT and GRIPE for generating SBOMs and scanning for vulnerabilities, and the future implications of these technologies in software security.