Making Yourself Clear

The Hidden Scale Behind All Communication


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🔍 Episode Summary:

Have you ever gotten lost in the clouds of abstract language—or buried under too much detail? Welcome to the Ladder of Abstraction.

In this episode, Chris and Patrick explore how this powerful concept shapes every conversation you have. Whether you're talking about a specific cow named Bessie or referring to "assets" or "conscious beings," you're moving up or down a ladder that affects how clearly you’re understood.

They explain how mastering this ladder helps you hit the right level of detail for your audience, improve clarity, and avoid both oversimplification and overcomplication. With practical examples, playful metaphors, and some laughs along the way, they’ll help you recognize when to zoom in—and when to zoom out.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

• What the Ladder of Abstraction is and why it matters

• How to recognize when you're speaking too generally—or too specifically

• How to move up or down the ladder depending on your audience

• Why clarity lives in the ability to flex across levels

• How to apply this concept in conversations, writing, and presentations

👥 Let’s Connect

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Making Yourself ClearBy Chris Iskander and Patrick Neary