In this era of hot takes loosely held, we each reveal the hills we’re willing to die on. Helen defends advertising as the perfect business model, Angela says the maths never really math (so throw out your spreadsheets), and Ashley insists you only lose when you try to play someone else’s game. Plus: the Anthropic narrative shift, everyone loves Bret Taylor, and so long Tim Apple (hello Johnny Appleseed?).

Mercury is back as the headline sponsor for year two of Great Chat. Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

This podcast is edited by Eric Johnson from ⁠⁠LightningPod