With Dr. Obed Manwatkar of North Park Theological Seminary. Discussing his identity as a Christian from a Dalit background, his family’s origins in an Indian village nicknamed “Mini Pandharpur” ("Pandharpur" means “Holy Casteless City”), reclaiming the reputation of Nagpur as a city of interfaith legacy rather than the headquarters of the Hindu nationalist RSS paramilitary, the struggle to secure indigenous control of the Indian Christian Church, why Dalits and so-called “lower castes” convert, the emancipatory power of learning English in India, and much more.