This episode was co-hosted by Matt Bartlett, the head of web3 ant VanEck and featured Spencer, the founder of Spencer Ventures and the incubator of Orange Cap Games, the creators of the Pudgy TCG Vibes. We dive into Spencer’s and Matt’s shared passion for trading card games like Magic: The Gathering. Spencer shares how he recognized a unique opportunity in the Pudgy Penguins IP, which stands out for being more inclusive and particularly appealing to women—a group that has long been underserved in the space. Matt outlines the game plan and how Pudgy TCG addresses the shortcomings of other TCGs. We also address the elephant in the room: many people buy trading cards like Pokémon to collect rather than to play. That’s why Spencer placed great emphasis on the visual storytelling of the Pudgy trading cards, incorporating numerous references to Pudgy Penguin lore, as well as nods to famous movies, artworks, and memes. We wrap up the space with some alpha from Matt about an exciting collaboration between VanEck and Vibes.