Episode 7! A bit late, but still great. This conversation with Dr. Ruth Brennan, an integration expert in environmental governance, is a fascinating and wide-ranging tour of ideas related to fisheries management and conservation in the context of Ireland's island communities. Key topics include: co-design in management and conservation efforts; humanity and social relationships in conservation and management; small-scale fishing communities, particularly island communities, in Ireland and Scotland; policy on paper versus in practice; found poetry from community voices; gender in fishing communities; and what "integration expert" means!

Full transcript & Dr. Brennan's bio at conservationrealist.substack.com

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