After years of “doing it all” - careers, crises, and the day-to-day grind - Tully and Maggie have mastered the art of hyper-independence. But here’s the thing: once you get used to carrying everything alone, it’s hard to let anyone else take the weight… even when someone wants to.

In this episode, the girls dig into the emotional gymnastics of refusing help until they inevitably explode - or, as Maggie puts it, become “champagne bottles that get shaken up until they pop.”

They talk about the messy reality of vulnerability when it’s not cute, the ugly side of mental health, and the awkward dance between self-reliance and letting people in.

Whether you’re an A-type personality with a colour-coded calendar or just someone who hates asking for help, this one will feel uncomfortably familiar.

01:05 – Sock Merch & Chart Bragging

01:30 – Weekly Life Chaos

04:30 – On the Couch: Hyper-Independence

13:00 – Teenager to Caretaker

17:00 – Champagne Bottle Analogy

20:00 – Ned the Golden Retriever Boyfriend

22:00 – Ugly Cry + Guilt Spiral

25:00 – Microdosing Vulnerability & Asking For Help

29:00 – TeaOnHer: Are we hypocrites?

33:00 – Digital Overshare Trauma

35:00 – Shag V. Taylor Swift

39:00 – Troll Dolls & Bridges

42:00 – Therapy Homework

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