Los Angeles for Justice Malala. New York for Redi Tlhabi. London for Nakhane Toure. And your Facebook feed is showing a stream of middle class South Africans moving to Australia, the UK and Ireland, right? South Africans seem to be on the move - but why don't we have the data to track this? Jessica speaks to Bernhard Smuts, developer of WhereDidWeGo.Com, a website that visualises self-reported data from South Africans as they move, either temporarily or permanently, to other countries.

Resources mentioned in this show:

www.wheredidwego.com

https://www.facebook.com/whereDidWeGoWebSite/

The Dr Azar Jammine article on emigration Jessica discusses is here:

https://www.biznews.com/global-citizen/2019/08/13/accelerated-emigration-azar-jammine

and the Daily Maverick response from Daniel Buckham she notes is here:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-10-01-are-skilled-white-south-africans-really-emigrating-at-an-accelerating-rate/

and a final response from Prof Daniel Kaplan is here:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-10-03-packing-for-perth-skills-flight-is-a-reality-and-we-must-plan-for-it/

Bernhard's recommendations are:

https://syntax.fm

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