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What do black mold, identity death, and Real & Raw leadership have in common?
Everything.
In this soul-stirring, laugh-out-loud episode, Clare sits down with digital nomad and founder of Way of the Founder, Dina, for a wildly unfiltered conversation from across the globe (literally — Vietnam to the UK). What starts as a chat about mattress mishaps quickly unfolds into a deep dive on what it really takes to surrender the life you were conditioned for… and choose freedom instead.
They riff on:
Building a business that gives you your life back (not just income)
Letting go of identities you’ve outgrown — and grieving them
Why ‘faking it till you make it’ can actually deepen imposter syndrome
The real truth behind surrendered action (spoiler: it’s not passive)
Personal branding, purpose-led business, and creating movements that matter
Clare’s personal behind-the-scenes of creating Real & Raw LIVE… and what’s coming next in Austin
Whether you’re in a pivot, craving more freedom, or questioning WTF you’re doing with your life — this one will meet you exactly where you are.
🌀 The timelines are collapsing. You ready to move?
🎟️ Come to the next Real & Raw LIVE in Austin, Texas – Feb 6–7th 2026.
Get on stage or get in the room: https://phoenix-rise.co.uk/real-and-raw-liberation-austin#real-and-raw-liberation
💌 Join THE ROOM™ – Clare’s membership for women who lead from truth, not performance.
The space where your voice lands. The room where you remember who you are.
By Clare GarnerWhat do black mold, identity death, and Real & Raw leadership have in common?
Everything.
In this soul-stirring, laugh-out-loud episode, Clare sits down with digital nomad and founder of Way of the Founder, Dina, for a wildly unfiltered conversation from across the globe (literally — Vietnam to the UK). What starts as a chat about mattress mishaps quickly unfolds into a deep dive on what it really takes to surrender the life you were conditioned for… and choose freedom instead.
They riff on:
Building a business that gives you your life back (not just income)
Letting go of identities you’ve outgrown — and grieving them
Why ‘faking it till you make it’ can actually deepen imposter syndrome
The real truth behind surrendered action (spoiler: it’s not passive)
Personal branding, purpose-led business, and creating movements that matter
Clare’s personal behind-the-scenes of creating Real & Raw LIVE… and what’s coming next in Austin
Whether you’re in a pivot, craving more freedom, or questioning WTF you’re doing with your life — this one will meet you exactly where you are.
🌀 The timelines are collapsing. You ready to move?
🎟️ Come to the next Real & Raw LIVE in Austin, Texas – Feb 6–7th 2026.
Get on stage or get in the room: https://phoenix-rise.co.uk/real-and-raw-liberation-austin#real-and-raw-liberation
💌 Join THE ROOM™ – Clare’s membership for women who lead from truth, not performance.
The space where your voice lands. The room where you remember who you are.