In this episode of the Agency Spark Podcast, Sara interviews Chris MacLeod. Chris is a Senior Consultant and coach with ADAPTOVATE, a global management consulting firm, based in Sydney Australia, specializing in Agile at Scale business model transformations. As Design Thinking and human-centred-design evangelist, Chris works with large, publicly traded companies to embed Agile ways of working that support sustainable innovation and customer value delivery. Chris is also a long-time member of the Duct Tape Marketing Consulting Network and acts as the International Leader, helping grow the brand outside North America.