On April 25th 2018, 25 year old Alex Minassian drove a passenger van into pedestrians on a crowded Toronto footpath, killing 10 people and injuring 16 others. Moments before the attack Minassian posted a message on his facebook shedding light on his motive. The message voiced admiration for a man who killed six college students in California in 2014, and announced his allegiance to a internet hate group called the incels, short for “involuntary celibate”. In this episode we hear from Heidi Matthews who teaches in international criminal law ( Osgoode Hall Law School), we look at the history of online misogyny with former journalist and researcher Emma A. Jane ( University of New South Wales), and talk about the problematic nature of letting incels define themselves with Dr Ramona Vijeyarasa ( University of Technology Sydney). Producer: Miles Herbert and Cheyne Anderson.