Show Notes:

- Chat with Evan Driscoll, a glorious man who believes strongly in a systems-level approach to solving problems we face as a society.

- Evan drives us to a lake in his car, which was very nice of him.

- We singlehandedly fix the education system.

- Audio on Evan's end is poorer than usual, though definitely still listenable. Please direct your complaints to @cognazor on Twitter.

Follow me on Twitter:

@JamesPDowling

https://twitter.com/JamesPDowling

Evan's Twitter:

@KeenDisregard

https://twitter.com/KeenDisregard

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