An incredibly moving episode in which I talk to the amazing human being that is https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevephillipsalestrainer/ Steve is founder of https://thejordanlegacy.com/a charity in memory of his son Jordan who took his own life on the 4th December 2019.

Steve in his own words is "a grieving father, trying to do something".

Not an easy listen but a powerful and inspiring one.