In this heartfelt episode, Betina and Jen celebrate their podcast launch (the episode was recorded the day they launched their first episode) and honor Uncle Bob's memory before diving into how they've sustained each other through life's challenges. Through vulnerable storytelling, they reveal how their friendship has served as a lighthouse during difficult seasons, offering hope when darkness felt overwhelming. The conversation moves beyond surface-level positivity to examine joy as a conscious spiritual commitment, exploring the difference between circumstantial happiness and cultivated joy. This episode feels like listening to two dear friends who've weathered storms together, creating a warm space for discussing practical ways to choose joy.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intro to the Intro of the intro

02:55 Launch intro

06:41 The real intro

O7:48 Joy Temperatures

17:55 Back story: How we’ve helped each other find light in dark times?

51:22 Life Focus: How are we intentional about joy as a spiritual practice?

1:06:30 Recipe: Celebration snacks

Jen’s snack

Apple sliced in half seeds and stem removed

Cheese

Cashews

Olives

Dried mangos

Pretzel

Pickles

Betina’s snack

Lightly Salted Lays

Double Dark Chocolate Milano cookie

Or

Simple fruit and cheese charcuterie board

Recipes:

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

17:40 “Our Declaration” - Wanna Beat

27:43 “East Coast” - Molife

49:20 “In the Bag” - John Runefelt

66:02/78:26 “Back At It” - Dyalla

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