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  • Dear David: Real Haunting or Internet Hoax?

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    A ghostly child appears in a nightmare. A warning allows just two questions. Then Adam Ellis asks a third.

    In Episode 15 of The KASE Files, Crabby takes Rick through Dear David, the viral ghost story that brought unsettling dreams, strange photographs and an alleged haunting to Twitter.

    We follow the story from the boy in the chair to the increasingly disturbing images, before looking at the doubts, the sceptical explanations and the eventual movie adaptation. Was this a genuine paranormal experience, an elaborate hoax or horror storytelling perfectly suited to the internet?

    We also catch up on our latest Kelvedon Hatch investigation and discuss something unexplained we caught on camera.

    Headphones on, get comfortable and decide where you stand. What’s the strongest part of the Dear David story, and where does it start to lose you?

    In this episode

    • Adam Ellis’s account and the origins of Dear David
    • The two-question rule and what allegedly happened next
    • The photographs and the face in the dark
    • Why some followers began questioning the story
    • The move from Twitter thread to horror film
    • Rick’s thoughts on the case

    A note on the claims discussed

    Dear David’s reported experiences and photographs are discussed critically, not presented as verified evidence of the paranormal. Our investigation equipment and apps are experimental tools, and we continue to learn about their behaviour and limitations. An unexplained result does not establish a paranormal cause.

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

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    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 22 min
  • BONUS: City of Ghosts | Canterbury’s Ghost Story Festival with Thom Burgess

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    What makes a ghost story linger long after the lights come back on?

    In this bonus episode of The KASE Files, we sit down with screenwriter, horror author and festival organiser Thom Burgess to explore City of Ghosts: The Canterbury Ghost Story Festival.

    We talk about Canterbury’s ghost story heritage, from the apparition of Mrs Veal to its connections with M. R. James, and discover what’s planned for a day dedicated to supernatural storytelling.

    Thom introduces the festival’s attractions, including live M. R. James performances by Robert Lloyd Parry, cursed objects and folklore with Dan Baines, and a display of the original manuscript of “Oh, Whistle, and I’ll Come to You, My Lad.”

    Whether you love classic literary chills or you’re discovering ghost stories for the first time, join us for a look behind the festival.

    Attend City of Ghosts

    Saturday 3 October 2026
    St Gregory’s Centre of Music, Canterbury

    Tickets and full event information:
    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/city-of-ghosts-the-canterbury-ghost-story-festival-tickets-1998994102171

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    This is a standalone bonus episode, separate from our numbered episodes.

    Links

    Early Haunts 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Early-Haunts-T-W-Burgess/dp/B0BQ4X2WLF

    Malevolents - Click Click
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Malevolents-Click-Thom-Burgess-ebook/dp/B077F4XB87

    Ghoster : TW Burgess
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ghoster-Thom-Burgess-Toby-Meakins-ebook/dp/B088Q4PKPN

    The Eyrie 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eyrie-Thom-Burgess-ebook/dp/B077F17L3B

    Hallows Fell
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hallows-Fell-T-W-Burgess/dp/B08W7SPT3C

    Manoghosts Youtube 
    https://www.youtube.com/c/ManoghostsTV

    www.manoghosts.com 
    www.twburgess.com

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


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    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    24 min
  • What’s Really in a Paranormal Investigator’s Kit? Meet Alan

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    What does a paranormal investigator actually take into a haunted location, and what can the equipment really tell us?

    Crabby and Rick catch up with KASE investigator Alan, joining from Poole in Dorset, to explore the fascination that drew him into the paranormal and the investigations that have challenged his scepticism.

    From his friendship with Crabby and their London Dungeon investigation in 2013 to the equipment he has collected along the way, Alan shares his side of life on a paranormal team. We talk thermal cameras, his favourite piece of kit and the camera footage from Fort Burgoyne that still raises questions.

    There is also a look at where Alan stands today on the unexplained, his paranormal group and the locations he would love to investigate next. Plus, Crabby’s Quirky Questions and questions sent in by listeners.

    If you could take just one piece of equipment on an investigation, what would it be? Send us your choice, along with any questions for the hosts.

    Watch the video version on YouTube from 10am UK time on 15 September:
    https://youtu.be/h-_qx61Jfvw

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Intro
    03:39 Crabby’s Quirky Questions
    12:49 What Drew Alan to the Paranormal?
    29:11 Inside Alan’s Paranormal Investigation Kit
    43:40 Alan’s Favourite Piece of Equipment
    44:29 Sceptic or Believer? Where Alan Stands Today
    50:40 Alan’s Paranormal Group
    55:21 Alan Answers Your Listener Questions
    01:00:33 What’s Coming Up on The KASE Files
    01:02:08 Outro

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

    Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/kaseparanormal

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    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

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    https://x.com/kaseparanormal

    YouTube

    https://youtube.com/@kaseparanormal



    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 7 min
  • Is Fort Burgoyne Haunted? The Evidence We Can't Explain (Part 2)

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    Crabby and Rick return to Fort Burgoyne for Part 2, moving beyond the history and into KASE's paranormal investigation of its casemates, basements and underground corridors.

    The team attempts spirit communication inside the unsettling Disney Room, where Laura encounters a cartoon bird she had apparently remote viewed before knowing the investigation location. Elsewhere, cat balls respond to questions, a RemPod remains continuously activated, unexplained footsteps and coughing are heard underground, and a laser grid is broken by something moving through an empty section of the fort.

    The teams compare their strongest evidence, consider whether the activity could represent a sentry still carrying out its duty, and reveal what happened after Laura returned home. A week after the investigation, she and her sceptical husband both saw the same black shadow standing in their bedroom doorway.

    Was Fort Burgoyne responding intelligently to the investigators, and did something follow one of them home?

    Read the full Fort Burgoyne case study:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/blog/paranormal-investigation-fort-burgoyne-dover

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

    Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/kaseparanormal

    TikTok:
    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

    X / Twitter:
    https://x.com/kaseparanormal

    YouTube

    https://youtube.com/@kaseparanormal



    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 16 min
  • Is Fort Burgoyne Haunted? The Fort That Watched Us Back (Part 1)

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    On 27 September 2025, KASE entered Fort Burgoyne for what we believe was its first formal paranormal investigation.

    Built above Dover Castle during Britain’s Victorian invasion panic, this enormous fortress spent around 145 years in military use before falling largely silent.

    Fifteen investigators. Two teams. One night inside a fort designed to hold thousands.

    For Rick, this was his first investigation with KASE. For Crabby, it was his first night back with the team after a year away. Fort Burgoyne did not give either of them a gentle introduction.

    In Part 1, Rick and Crabby explore the fort’s military history before retracing Team A’s investigation through the ground-level casemates and tunnels.

    A motion light activates with no visible trigger. A door opens behind Dan. Thuds and footsteps are heard inside an empty tunnel. Both teams report whistles from separate areas within minutes of each other. Then a laser grid is broken by something the team cannot immediately explain.

    None of these events proves paranormal activity. KASE documented the environmental conditions, tested the equipment and considered natural explanations throughout the investigation.

    This episode also introduces Questions for the Hosts. Rick and Crabby discuss why some locations appear to contain hundreds of spirits, how KASE tests equipment for false positives and whether Rick would rather face a ghost or a spider.

    Part 2 is coming soon, with the investigation continuing into Fort Burgoyne’s deeper levels and the room nicknamed “Disney.”


    Fort Burgoyne Case Study

    Read the full investigation report:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/blog/paranormal-investigation-fort-burgoyne-dover

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

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    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

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    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

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    YouTube

    https://youtube.com/@kaseparanormal



    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 7 min
  • Rendlesham Forest UFO: What Really Happened at Britain’s Roswell?

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    In December 1980, American servicemen stationed near Rendlesham Forest reported strange lights descending into the trees beside two Cold War airbases.

    What followed became Britain’s most famous UFO case.

    Crabby and Ricky examine the extraordinary events of the Rendlesham Forest incident, including claims of a metallic craft covered in symbols, unusual radiation readings, multiple military witnesses, the official Halt Memo and the remarkable recording known as the Halt Tape.

    They also explore the alleged government cover-up, witnesses who came forward decades later and reports of strange activity continuing around the forest.

    But is there a more conventional explanation? Could a meteor, the Orfordness Lighthouse, bright stars and misperception account for what the servicemen witnessed?

    Was something genuinely unexplained moving through Rendlesham Forest, or did several ordinary events combine to create one of the world’s most enduring UFO mysteries?

    Crabby and Ricky examine the evidence from both sides before sharing their own conclusions.

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.

    Website: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us

    Follow us on TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

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    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

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    https://x.com/kaseparanormal

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    https://youtube.com/@kaseparanormal



    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 17 min
  • The Enfield Haunting & South Shields Poltergeist: What Was Really Happening?

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    Crabby and Rick are back in the studio to explore one of the most disturbing types of paranormal activity: poltergeists.

    They take a closer look at the Enfield Haunting and the South Shields Poltergeist, two of Britain’s most compelling and controversial paranormal cases. They also run through seven other reported cases from around the world to see whether the same patterns appear again and again.

    From unexplained voices and moving objects to violent disturbances inside family homes, these cases have produced extraordinary claims, alleged evidence and fierce debate.

    What exactly is a poltergeist, and how does it differ from a traditional haunting? Could RSPK, or recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis, be behind the activity? This theory suggests that a living person may unconsciously produce physical phenomena during periods of intense emotional or psychological stress.

    Were these families confronted by something genuinely paranormal, or could deception, psychology and misinterpretation explain what happened?

    Crabby and Rick examine the reported events, put the RSPK theory to the test and consider what sceptics make of the cases before reaching their own conclusions.


    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.

    Website: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us

    SOCIALS

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    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


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    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 19 min
  • Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker: What's Really Down There? (Part 2)

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    Crabby, Rick and Matt are back in the studio for Part 2 of Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker. Last time they covered the history and previous paranormal encounters — this time it's all about KASE's own investigation back in 2025.

    From EVP evidence and shadow figures to the ghost of a little girl, this one gets seriously unsettling.


    Evidence from this investigation:


    🎙️ EVP Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtiG5YVvIGs
    👁️ Anomalies Footage: https://www.tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal/video/7634881251274525974
    📄 Full Case Study: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/blog/paranormal-investigation-kelvedon-hatch-nuclear-bunker


    About KASE Paranormal

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.

    Website: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

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    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

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    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 29 min
  • Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker: What's Really Down There? (Part 1)

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    Crabby, Rick and Matt go underground to investigate one of the UK's most secretive Cold War sites - Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker. In Part 1, the team uncover the bunker's chilling history and what the government really had planned for Britain in the event of nuclear war.

    The guys also share personal experiences from across the wider KASE team at the location, and dig into the theories behind what might still be lurking in its depths.



    About KASE Paranormal

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.

    Website: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

    Instagram:
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    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

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    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 28 min
  • Are These Monsters Real? Laura and Rick Discuss Cryptids

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    With Crabby absent, Laura joins Rick in the studio to explore a shared passion - Cryptids. They each pick a creature, tell its story, and deliver their verdict on whether it could be real. 

    From the Bat Beast of Kent to the terrifying Dogman, this one's a wild ride into the unknown.


    Mentioned in this Episode

    Paul Sinclair (Truth Proof): https://youtube.com/@paulsinclairtruth-proof 

    The Confessionals Podcast: https://youtu.be/d8E3Zx08u1U?si=BP6ckzYsqjJ9ldrp 

    Andy McGrath (IMDb): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11519013/bio/


    About KASE Paranormal

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.

    Website: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact: https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us

    ABOUT KASE PARANORMAL

    KASE Paranormal is a private paranormal investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We support households and families experiencing unexplained activity with an evidence-led, grounded approach.


    CONNECT WITH KASE

    Website:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk

    Private Investigations:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/private-investigations

    Contact:
    https://www.kaseparanormal.co.uk/contact-us


    FOLLOW US

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/kentandsoutheastparanormal

    Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/kaseparanormal

    TikTok:
    https://tiktok.com/@kaseparanormal

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    https://x.com/kaseparanormal

    YouTube

    https://youtube.com/@kaseparanormal



    DISCLAIMER

    All investigations are conducted with full permission from the property owner or authorised representatives. We do not trespass or encourage trespassing.

    Paranormal investigation equipment is used experimentally. Activations, recordings and personal experiences are not presented as definitive proof of spirits or an afterlife. We consider environmental factors, equipment limitations and natural explanations when reviewing reported activity.

    1 hr 12 min

About The KASE Files

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The KASE Files is the podcast from KASE Paranormal, a private investigation team based in Kent, established in 2007. We break down real investigations, locations, equipment, and methodology.…