Jerry Brazie sits down with Justin Spillers, founder of Real Estate Alpha and operator of one of the most tightly run multifamily portfolios in Western Ohio.

Justin is a former attorney who took the leap into real estate entrepreneurship after years at a downtown Columbus law firm. Today at 40, he's managing 600+ doors, running a team of 50 full-time W-2 employees, and doing it all while raising four kids with his high school sweetheart of 17 years.

This conversation doesn't start with the business. It starts with the family — because that's where the real foundation is.

Jerry and Justin talk about what it means to be a driven, present father and husband while also building something that requires everything you've got. They talk about the friends you have to leave behind, the circle you build instead, and the moment the light bulb goes on and you understand what entrepreneurship actually costs.

Then they get into the operational machine — 7-day unit turns, 60-second lead response, AI-powered leasing scorecards, 48-hour maintenance guarantees, daily scoreboards, and a team culture built on winning. And they close on the financial structure: self-funded for 8.5 years, 55% LTV across the entire portfolio, 100% of the equity retained.

If you're building anything — in real estate or outside of it — this episode will recalibrate how you think about what's possible and what it actually takes to get there.

Connect with Justin: realestatealpha.io | LinkedIn: Justin Spillers

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Thirty years in real estate. Hundreds of thousands of square feet. One rule: only invest in what you can touch.

Then I sat down with Mike Cobb — co-founder of ECI Development — and he cracked that rule wide open.

Mike's spent three decades building communities in Belize, Nicaragua, Panama, and Costa Rica. He ran a business in Central America for 33 years without a single bribe. He lived in Nicaragua with his family for 14 years. And he got a 90% malignant lung diagnosis in a Costa Rican hotel room that ended up being the clearest moment of his life.

This episode is about international real estate, yes — but it's really about how to build something that matters and lasts. Jump in.

Michael Cobb

• Book: https://www.amazon.com/How-Buy-Your-Home-Overseas-ebook/dp/B0D3RZ14NY/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0
• Development Advisors Website: https://www.developmentadv.com/

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

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Steve is in Iceland this week. So it is just Jerry and Matt, and when that happens, the conversation tends to go somewhere useful.

Episode 331 covers three things most business content gets completely wrong.

First, the stacking income streams idea. The internet version of entrepreneurship loves to talk about running three or four small income sources simultaneously. Jerry has a different take — and if you have not successfully operated one real business yet, you probably need to hear it.

Second, the passive income myth. The pitch of buying a boring business, installing a manager, and stepping back is getting publicly walked back by the same people who sold it. Jerry breaks down the actual math on an acquisition, what it costs to hire someone to run it, what your real return looks like, and why none of it works the way it gets described in a social media video.

Third, the buy versus build question. With tens of thousands of baby boomers exiting businesses every day, there may be no better time in history to acquire an operating company rather than build one from scratch. Jerry explains why buying wins almost every time, how to think about finding a deal before you find the money, and what actually needs to happen after you close to make it worth what you paid.

They also get into AI — what it can realistically do, what it cannot do, and why the people selling AI business systems are running a version of the same pitch men like Tom Vu ran in the 1980s.

Straight talk. No theory. No polished framework. Two people who work on this stuff every day having a real conversation about it.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

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Jerry Brazie sits down with executive coach Don Weber, who spent nearly two decades living under false identities while working undercover for U.S. intelligence — gathering intel on arms dealers, counterfeiters, and worse, all while running a diamond business as cover. He's seen a man assassinated over coffee, slept on his office floor building his first business, and now coaches CEOs and founders on the thing most leaders never get taught: how to separate who you are from what you do.

This one covers ego management, why AI is a tool and not an oracle, imposter syndrome at every income level, and the real reason most people never take the leap. Plus — a McDonald's job at 16 that quietly became the foundation for a $25M company decades later.

If you've ever wondered whether the people you look up to have it more figured out than you do, listen to this one.

Connect with Don Weber: https://drwebercoaching.com

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

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Jerry Brazie sits down with Josh Zolin — stuntman-turned-CEO, author of "Blue is the New White," host of "Everything They Don't Tell You," and founder of the BITNW Academy. Josh ran a stunt business with his family before pivoting into the trades and building Windy City Equipment by age 27.

This conversation covers why the trades are beating college, Jerry's "knowledge plus action is power" philosophy built from $500M in revenue and a 9th-grade education, why Jerry can't stand the "men crying in their cars" trend, the caveman-and-pterodactyl take on purpose vs. mission, Jerry's 310-lb wake-up call and recovery, the rat experiment that explains belief vs. conditioning, and why emotional intelligence might be the most underrated skill in the trades.

Find Josh at joshzolin.com, grab "Blue is the New White," and check out "Everything They Don't Tell You."

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

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Dean Mathews built what most people wouldn't. Employee time tracking — not flashy, not viral, just necessary. And it grew to 18,000 companies because of it.

Jerry and Dean get into: the new competitive moat, fire fast, emotional leadership, and why solving boring problems beats chasing passion every time. Episode 328 of The Kronos Group Podcast.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

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This conversation is not for the faint of heart. And it's not supposed to be.

In Episode 327, Jerry Brazie and Steve Floyd go deep on what's actually broken with men today — and more importantly, what you can do about it right now.

Jerry opens with a story that started in a sauna — a 35-year-old guy who told a complete stranger he got fat because he was depressed. Not because he was sick. Not because something catastrophically wrong happened to him. Because he was depressed. And Jerry's response? That conversation became this episode.

What follows is one of the most direct conversations the Kronos Group Podcast has ever had about men, masculinity, victimhood, and what real agency looks like in practice.

Topics covered:

• Why the victimhood identity paralyzes men more than it helps them

• The "if not for" mindset — and how it keeps men stuck for decades

• Jerry's personal journey from the streets at 17, legally blind, broken back, heart condition, opioid addiction — to 100 lbs lost at 52 while building multiple companies

• Why physical health is not a vanity project — it's your operational foundation

• The trap men are in when they're told masculinity is toxic — and what happens when they buy it

• What Sun Tzu's warrior in a garden means for every man building something today

• Why the Kronos Forge exists and what Jerry wants its legacy to be

This is about responsibility. And responsibility is the way out.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

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Drew Norton lost 100 pounds and led $20M sales teams. Now he co-founds the Abundant Man Project to help men build strength in faith, family, fitness, and finance. In this episode, Drew and Jerry Brazie get into why belief is the one word blocking most men, what actually happens when you lead yourself first, and how the Belong-Believe-Become framework creates real identity change.

Plus: the story of the day Drew's wife saved their baby's life and what it woke up in him. Raw, direct, and worth every minute.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

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Sanjai Mehta spent 30 years in sales. He started cold calling from the Yellow Pages. He ended up selling to Fortune 500-caliber institutions. Along the way, he ran a failed partnership, rebuilt with a new company, hit £10M in revenue, and shifted into coaching others to find the same clarity. In this episode with Jerry Brazie, they get into what sales actually is at its core, what success means after the money stops feeling like enough, and why mentorship is the highest-ROI decision you'll ever make.

This episode is part of The Kronos Group Podcast, where experienced operators and founders share real-world lessons on building, scaling, and protecting their businesses.

If you run a business that is doing $1M or more a year, then you can't afford not to join a Kronos Peer Cohort. This group gives you monthly access to real operators (other business owners at your level) working through real situations (not generic advice). https://thekronosgroup.org/why-kronos/

If you're ready to get started and know that you need to join the room, book a discovery call with Jerry today: https://calendly.com/thekronosgroup/the-kronos-group-consultation

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