In this episode, Dr. Bly-Jones is joined by President and CEO of the National Association of Workforce Board (NAWB), Ron Painter. In his capacity as CEO of NAWB, Painter has traveled the country meeting with State and Local workforce leaders in an effort to identify cutting-edge practices and programs and understand how best to spread innovative trends in human capital development throughout the nation-wide job training system. As leaders of workforce development, the two discuss the value of workforce boards, the survival of small businesses amid a pandemic, and ongoing conversations on The Hill.