On the Leap of Faith this week, Michael Comyn speaks with Marie Collins, herself a clerical abuse survivor and former advisor to Pope Francis. Fr Joe McDonald, Parish Priest at St.Matthews Ballyfermot in Dublin and author of his book; Why The Irish Church Deserves to Die. A journalist from Crux Chris White joins us from Rome and Professor Donald Palmer an expert on organisational behaviour examines the culture of institutions that have failed to protect children worldwide.