Ben Jarrell (@benjarrellbama) really helps us understand Mando Saenz's (@mandosaenz) writing process. This is an important conversation especially coming from a seasoned writer like Mando. We're reminded that characters are still an important part of the development of songs. Direct or indirect life events really sculpt the music in our lives. The parallel we're reminded of is that we're all still searching for something and we're left with hope being what's hopefully discovered.