The Elephant in AppSec

The Lethal Trifecta or why your AI agent knows too much - Jason Fernandes


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Today, I’m joined by Jason Fernandes, VP of security and privacy at Mercari, the Japanese-born global marketplace now spanning e-commerce, FinTech, and crypto. It is this rare combination that puts him at the intersection of some of the strictest regulatory environments in tech.

He oversees everything from product and platform security to threat detection, privacy, and, since last year,  AI security and AI governance.

In this episode, we also talked about the challenges of AI governance, the lethal trifecta for AI agents, the confused deputy problem, and how to justify AI security investments to the leadership and working with FinOps teams. And much more!

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Mentioned

FACADE (Google's internal fraud detection model) https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.06700

Meta Practical AI Agent Security (Rule of Two) https://ai.meta.com/blog/practical-ai-agent-security/

Simon Willison The Lethal Trifecta https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/

Hiroki's AI Security blog (Mercari) https://hi120ki.github.io/blog/posts/20260103/

Anthropic  Project Vend https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-2

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