On the fourth episode of the Roots to Rafters podcast Rachel continues her discussion of Ida's journey with her two cousins, Gracie, and Marley. As well as her mother Becky and sister Elyse.

In part two they dive deeper into the ripple effects of her trauma and gather insight into how she carried both her pain and perseverance. Here we see the development of what will come to be known as "The Ida Gene".

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