Part two of return conversation with Dave Oshana, on surfing the wave of life.

Part One: A Room without Shadows (0 – 34 mins mins)

Dissembling, the false identity’s hold, pattern interruption, pain and drama management, asking to be blasted, attention-seeking mechanisms, capitulating to addiction, mistaken salvation, seeking a better dream, a mental idea of awakening, the displeasure of body awakening, awakening vs. enlightenment, when consciousness comes back to the body, a dream body, a spectrum of somnambulism, pain after enlightenment, when dreams recede, the matrix-mind, running commentary visible & invisible, being outside of the body, enlightened seeing, a room without shadows, a light inside, the neurons in the brain, compensatory communication, reducing the noise, the wave of life, how we know when the Sun is out.

Part Two: The Path of Fire (34 mins – 59 mins)

If enlightenment went away, let’s try this anyway, the river, a specific approach, a spiritual teacher, a sharable life change, conveying enlightenment, a self-contained feeling, practicing hygiene, the question of maintenance, a certain trajectory, the path of fire, a force of nature, how much you can handle, putting oneself in the line of fire, Christians vs. anarchists, being cooked, two football hooligans, camaraderie on the battlefield, mutual challenges, Jasun & Dave's different audiences.

Part Three: Where Communion Happens (59 mins to 1 hr 35 mins)

What people want, parallels with John de Ruiter, aligning with the Sun, conformed by the light, trying to get close to the father surrogate, Dave & John, being a proxy, Oshana-flavored ice cream, a Valhalla of infamy, new ways of communicating, trial, error, & consent, allowing for discovery, marching clones, room for experimentation, ego vs. life force, the poster boy for reckless autonomy, critical voices, the need for engagement, the art of conversation, venting on social media, where communion happens, doing away with fans, co-opted words, Christian trolls, being open to everyone, talking to evangelicals, the disillusioned, seeking collaborators, naturally liminal, for Christian listeners, simpatico with Jesus, a new New Testament, a punk Jesus, clerical errors, all the way back to Jerusalem, who was Peter, Jordan Peterson on the fence.

Part Four: Jiving About Jesus (1 hr 35 mins - end)

Who is Jesus to you, the Jesus legacy, the Merovingians, the need to deliver, the question of resurrection, the Jesus vibe, the archetype & the man, the Christian audience, how to interpret the Bible, unnecessary literalizing, leading people through distortions, bypassing belief, what can be discerned, tribalism & religion, the Procrustean trap, having to believe to be saved, pledging allegiance to a guru, group dynamics/social control, slave labor ideologies, toxic culture, the weak bladder principle, an Easter event, another free event, movers & shakers, an Oshana thrift store appearance.

Dave’s site.

Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Russian Beach Heycaluca" & "Leaving the Home Tribe" by Party People in the Can; “Whiskey Boots of Snake” by The UpsideDown; “O My God My Dick’s On Fire” by Paul Wild; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.