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"The Long Surrender" with Brian McDonald


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Our conversation with Brian McDonald about his book "The Long Surrender: A Memoir about Losing My Religion"


On this episode of the Unburdened podcast, we have Brian McDonald. From his upbringing in Alabama to his 30-year career as a preacher, missionary, and pastor, including seven transformative years in Taiwan mastering Mandarin Chinese. With degrees from Liberty University and the College of William and Mary, Brian transitioned into counseling, teaching at prestigious universities like Johns Hopkins and George Mason.


Brian discussed the complexities of leaving a rigid religious community, the isolation that often follows, and the struggle to maintain relationships with those who cannot accept his change in belief. His memoir, The Long Surrender, encapsulates his journey of grappling with theological conflicts, particularly the doctrine of eternal damnation, which he could never fully reconcile with his understanding of a just and loving deity.


Married to Kathy for 44 years, they have three children and three grandchildren. His life's work, both as a minister and now as a therapist, continues to inspire and support those in the midst of their own spiritual transformations.



We discussed: 


  • Difficulties faced when leaving a religious community, including losing support and love from former members.


  • Staying true to one's beliefs and integrity, even if it means diverging from a religious community's beliefs.


  • The mental health journey of dealing with intrusive thoughts and obsessive-compulsive disorder.


  • Encounters with racial segregation and inclusion, exploring how cultural and racial backgrounds shape belief systems.


  • Finding a supportive community that respects individual beliefs and values.


  • Maintaining relationships with individuals who may not understand or agree with one's changing beliefs.



To learn more about Brian McDonald:


Website: https://www.brianrushmcdonald.com/index.htm


THE LONG SURRENDER: A Memoir About Losing My Religion (book): https://www.brianrushmcdonald.com/


Twitter: https://twitter.com/drbrianmc



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