Kurt and Christian sit down with Dr. Brian Hosmer, Board Member with the Center of Public Secrets. The Center was founded by Lee Roy Chapman, who provided some of the inspiration for Ethan Hawke's Lee Raybon.

This was a wide-ranging conversation and it provides so much extra texture on the richness behind the land, culture, history, and music of Tulsa. You'll definitely get some of the lowdown on The Lowdown.

You can learn more about The Center's projects and status of the book "Lee Roy Chapman's Tulsa" at centerforpublicsecrets.org