Each episode the Calling All Humans team engage with individuals and groups attempting to enact systemic change in the world.

This episode considers how money is not an object but in fact a social relationship.

If, as David Graeber suggests, money has made it possible for us to ‘imagine ourselves in the way economists encourage us to do: as a collection individuals and nations whose main business is swapping things’, then how might we use art to imagine economics and ourselves differently?

This is what we talk about with this weeks guest, conceptual artist and PhD researcher, Lara Luna Bartley. We also play some clips from the talk CoResist hosted with Lara by Tony Greenham, who is currently setting up regional banks in an effort to change the economic landscape in the UK.