For Episode 13 I sat down with New York artist Cicdy Hinant at Interstitial on the eve of her opening there in February of 2015. We discussed her work and the cult of celebrity voyeurism that informs it. I actually had quite a few of my misconceptions straitened out during this conversation, and as much as I can't stand the thought of personal growth I have to say I feel good about the whole thing. Music by the Honeydogs is featured at the end as part of a run up to Adam Levy's concert at my house at the end of March. (more on that in future episodes).