Ben sits down with Kenny Mammarella-D'Cruz, the Man Whisperer, a men's group facilitator with nearly 30 years of experience helping men get out of survival mode and into a life that's actually alive.

Kenny's story is extraordinary: raised in a Welsh refugee camp after fleeing Uganda, shaped by Fiji, Calcutta and decades of working with men at their lowest. He had to unfuck himself first before he could help anyone else.

Together Ben and Kenny go deep on the things most men never say out loud. Why men DO want to talk, the wound of male betrayal, the part of you that saved your life but is now costing it, and why descent and rock bottom aren't things to fear but things to move through.

Plus Ben shares his four-gate initiation framework and why so many men are trying to be kings without ever earning their warrior.

You'll want to listen to this one twice.