The Marathon Podcast

The Marathon Podcast

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The Marathon Podcast episodes

  • #238 A HISTORIC NEW YORK CITY MARATHON 2026

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    A solo recap of the 2026 New York City Marathon, recorded right after the race. Andreas Almgren won in his marathon debut in 2:06:01, and Kristian says he has never been as excited to watch a marathon on TV.


    He walks through the race from the start to the finish: the confusing start for the women, the wheelchair races, and an elite women's race that stayed open until the final kilometers. Jess McClain ran down Hellen Obiri and took second behind Sheila Chepkirui, less than 10 seconds back. In the men's race, Almgren pulled away from Yemaneberhan Crippa late and won by 13 seconds.


    Kristian also shares what stood out to him about Almgren's approach, from his mileage to why he never tests himself fully in training, and goes through the performances of many other runners, including a long list of Americans and an Australian who finished just off his own national record.


    In this episode:

    - Almgren wins on his marathon debut in 2:06:01

    - Chepkirui, McClain and Obiri finish within seven seconds in the women's race

    - Marcel Hug and Catherine Debrunner in the wheelchair races

    - A start mix-up and a water grab scare for the pro women

    - Jess McClain's comeback and her story

    - Crippa's 2:06:14 and the sprint for the podium

    - An Australian close to the national record and performances from the Americans

    - What Almgren said about training and the marathon

    - A cooldown with the pros the day after


    Timestamps

    00:00 Saysky and welcome

    00:17 A historic day for Almgren and New York

    01:37 The race recap starts: wheelchair divisions

    02:13 A confusing start for the pro women

    03:16 Men's start delay and perfect conditions

    03:47 Men's wheelchair race: Marcel Hug

    05:20 Women's wheelchair race

    06:41 The women's pro race

    08:12 A scare at the water grab

    09:06 A group of ten at the half marathon

    10:11 Amanda Vestri drops, and the Brooks coach behind the results

    11:27 Five left at 35K, and Jess McClain's story

    13:54 Jess catches Obiri and Chepkirui

    16:06 The women's times and podium

    16:39 More runners and results to know

    19:08 Credit to the coverage of the women's race

    19:43 The men's field

    21:42 Expectations for Almgren

    23:54 How the men's race unfolds

    26:03 Crippa and Almgren up front

    27:42 Almgren wins in 2:06:01

    29:35 Shoe talk: Crippa and Almgren

    30:01 The podium and top five

    30:43 The Australian national record

    32:04 Americans and the rest of the top 20

    33:36 What Almgren has said about training and the marathon

    35:49 Cooldown with the pros

    36:34 Wrap-up


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    38 min
  • #237 Andrew Davies: 2:08 Marathon Debut and Canadian Champion

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    Andrew Davies is the new Canadian marathon champion. In his very first marathon, at the Toronto Waterfront Marathon, he ran 2:08:48, making him the fourth fastest Canadian of all time. His goal was 2:11. He went to work on Monday morning like nothing had happened.


    Andrew lives in Vancouver, just finished law school and is now working toward becoming a lawyer. In this conversation, he and Kristian talk about how he balanced a full-time job with the build, why he trains mostly by feel instead of chasing heart rate numbers, and what it was like to wake up the next day as a different kind of runner.


    They also dig into his training in detail: weeks of up to 200K, double threshold days, a 41K easy run in the middle of the week, marathon pace workouts in minutes instead of kilometers, and how he fueled with close to 100 grams of carbs an hour. Andrew also clears up the aid station bottle mix-up that went around social media.


    Before the interview, Kristian shares his own first double threshold day, including a tough morning session and a much better afternoon in the Puma Fast-R3.


    In this episode:

    - Andrew's 2:08:48 debut and the Canadian title

    - Balancing law work and marathon training

    - Racing in the Puma Fast-R and training in carbon plated shoes

    - The aid station bottle mix-up, explained

    - How the race unfolded, from the start to the last 10K

    - What the result changes for his Olympic ambitions

    - Signing with an agent after the race

    - Training by feel, without heart rate

    - Weekly mileage, double threshold days and marathon workouts

    - Fueling with 90 to 100 grams of carbs per hour

    - What he does next in the spring


    Timestamps

    00:00 Welcome and who Andrew Davies is

    02:00 Kristian's first double threshold day

    03:53 Afternoon session in the Puma Fast-R3

    08:49 Valencia and Boston shakeouts, and merch

    10:03 Saysky Copenhagen

    11:01 Interview with Andrew Davies begins

    12:21 Expectations going into the race

    14:04 Andrew's background: running and law school

    15:37 Balancing a full-time job with a marathon build

    16:29 Ambitions as a young runner

    19:04 Career recap: cross country and the track

    21:08 Why the marathon now

    22:21 Cross country vs the roads

    24:19 Race shoes and carbon plates

    25:33 Signing with an agent

    27:19 The aid station bottle mix-up

    31:06 How the race unfolded

    35:59 Crossing the finish line

    37:07 Olympic ambitions

    38:36 Competing with other Canadian marathoners

    41:42 Prioritizing the marathon

    42:44 Coaching and mileage

    46:43 Easy runs by feel

    48:03 Heart rate and lactate: how he controls intensity

    50:33 Fueling for the marathon

    56:20 Marathon workouts

    59:37 The weekly structure and a 41K easy run

    1:05:41 What he learned from a marathon block

    1:08:04 Snacks and reactions at the office

    1:10:23 What is next this spring

    1:11:33 Wrap-up


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    1 hr 14 min
  • #236 Pro Runner Jacob Boutera Announces Marathon Debut in Valencia

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    Jacob Boutera is one of Norway's best middle distance runners, a professional with On, and a former soccer player who only started running at 19. Two days before this conversation he ran 62:10 at the Valencia Half Marathon, and in this episode he announces his marathon debut.


    Jacob and Kristian are practically neighbors, and this is one of the first guests recorded in Kristian's own studio. They talk about Jacob's path from youth soccer to the steeplechase and a pro contract, how it feels to look back at breaking nine minutes for 3K when he now runs that pace for a whole hour, and how the mindset changes from the track to the road.


    They also get into marathon training, double threshold days, fueling, treadmill sessions, fatherhood and the running form that Kristian cannot stop studying.


    Before the interview, Kristian shares a training update, including a rest day to protect his groin, his first planned double threshold day, and signing up for Chicago.


    In this episode:

    - Jacob's 62:10 half marathon in Valencia and the road back from injury

    - From soccer player to national medalist and pro runner

    - Steeplechase, the World Championships in Eugene and signing with On

    - Sharing the track with the Ingebrigtsen brothers

    - Why the marathon went from "way too long" to his next goal

    - Marathon debut in Valencia and his target of sub 2:10

    - A normal training week with double threshold days

    - Running easy days slower, treadmill sessions and long runs

    - Fueling from scratch for the marathon

    - Balancing training with being a dad

    - Running technique and why Jacob thinks running more matters most


    Timestamps

    00:00 Welcome and why this episode is special

    01:58 Kristian's training update

    04:37 Chicago sign-up and the Valencia shakeout

    05:39 Saysky Copenhagen

    06:38 Interview with Jacob Boutera begins

    07:39 The Valencia Half Marathon: 62:10

    09:04 From soccer player to runner

    14:11 Career so far: injury, steeplechase and signing with On

    16:28 Looking back at breaking nine minutes for 3K

    18:35 Competing in the era of the Ingebrigtsen brothers

    20:02 When track and field was not cool

    22:15 Mindset shift from the track to the roads

    25:30 Marathon debut announced: Valencia in six weeks

    27:33 How marathon training is different

    31:11 Long runs and durability

    35:01 Sharing training on Strava

    37:20 Being open about injuries and setbacks

    40:44 Training and fatherhood

    44:02 Treadmill sessions and double threshold days

    47:48 Fueling for the marathon

    53:40 Running technique

    59:47 A normal training week

    1:03:10 Running easy days slower

    1:05:17 Marathon goal for Valencia

    1:06:16 Wrap-up


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    1 hr 8 min
  • #235 Christi Dee Quit her Corporate Job to Coach Runners

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    Christi Dee has run 46 marathons, left a 20-year corporate career to start her own running coaching business, and written two children's books about running. In this conversation, Kristian talks to her about all three: why she wrote Can a Frog Jog and Maya Runs a Marathon, what it took to bet on herself, and how she approaches coaching real people with busy lives.


    They also get into consistency, what makes running sustainable over decades, the coach and runner relationship, and why not every marathon needs to be a PR. They finish with the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, a hometown race that is close to her heart.


    Before the interview, Kristian shares an update on his own training: why he now looks at a rolling 7-day window instead of Monday to Sunday, his first workout on the Wahoo Kickr Run treadmill, a 28K treadmill long run, and honest doubts about his sub 2:30 goal in Valencia.


    In this episode:

    - Why Christi wrote running books for children

    - Can a Frog Jog and Maya Runs a Marathon

    - Leaving corporate America to coach full time

    - Running 46 marathons and keeping it sustainable

    - Coaching busy athletes without making running their whole life

    - Building confidence in a new career

    - Trust and communication between coach and runner

    - Why every marathon does not have to be a PR

    - The Indianapolis Monumental Marathon and the indie running community


    Timestamps

    00:00 Welcome and what is coming in this episode

    00:59 Kristian's training update: Monday to Sunday vs a rolling 7 days

    03:05 First workout on the Wahoo Kickr Run treadmill

    05:27 A 28K treadmill long run

    06:51 Six weeks out from Valencia and the sub 2:30 goal

    10:03 Saysky Copenhagen

    11:12 Interview with Christi Dee begins

    11:39 Why she wrote children's books about running

    14:14 Maya Runs a Marathon

    15:19 From corporate America to a coaching business

    18:47 How kids and parents have reacted to the books

    22:19 Teaching kids about the marathon

    25:44 Running 46 marathons

    28:42 Running while working a corporate job, and why she made the switch

    34:13 Consistency and sustainable training

    37:51 Coaching busy athletes

    41:42 Confidence when starting something new

    44:28 Trust and communication between coach and runner

    48:56 Not every marathon is a PR

    50:10 Her first marathon, Chicago 2006

    51:23 The Indianapolis Monumental Marathon

    56:22 Where to find the books and wrap-up


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    59 min
  • #234 I Run 150K a Week. Here’s What Every Guest Taught Me.

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    Another solo episode, and this time Kristian looks back at 234 episodes and shares the lessons from past guests that he thinks about almost every day on his runs.


    He is now up to 150K a week, almost 100 miles, just a year after celebrating his first 100K week. He explains how guests helped him get there, why mileage makes you faster, and how to tell when it is making you slower. Along the way he covers easy runs, running form, double days, cross training, strength work, fueling, women's health and why you should be careful about copying anyone else's training.


    In this episode:

    - Training for a sub 2:30 in Valencia: 150K weeks, fatigue and race day pace

    - Alana Levy: why running is not optional

    - Thomas Nobbs: running easy runs truly easy

    - Miles (Find Your Stride Coach) on running technique

    - Charlie Sweeney and Sofie Haugen: splitting the load into two runs a day

    - Felicia Pasadyn and the power of cross training

    - Strength training, and why most of us know we should do it

    - Jake (Run to Japan) on breaking a scary pace into seconds

    - Archie on low intensity training

    - Alfie Manthorpe and fueling before, during and after runs

    - Jimmy Whelan on altitude camps, McKenna Myler on the female body and Ingrid Kristiansen on Strava

    - Why you should take lessons from guests, not copy their training plans


    Content note: Kristian shares an update on a former guest who was seriously injured after being hit by a truck while crossing the road.


    Timestamps

    00:00 Welcome and why a solo episode on lessons from guests

    01:52 150K a week and why mileage works

    03:08 Saysky Copenhagen

    04:14 Fatigue, workouts and race day pace

    08:36 Rest days, niggles and swimming

    11:35 Trying the Wahoo Kickr Run treadmill

    12:28 Alana Levy: running is not optional

    14:50 Thomas Nobbs: easy runs

    18:16 Miles on running technique

    20:03 Charlie Sweeney and Sofie Haugen: two runs a day

    22:17 Felicia Pasadyn and cross training

    27:00 Strength training

    28:51 Jake on scary paces

    30:57 Archie on low intensity training

    33:11 Alfie Manthorpe and fueling

    36:33 Easing back in after injury

    37:55 Jimmy Whelan on altitude camps

    39:57 McKenna Myler and the female body

    42:03 Ingrid Kristiansen and Strava

    44:45 Take the lessons, not the plan

    46:24 Wrap-up


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    48 min
  • #233 Shoe Rotation, Whoop and Watches: Gear Talk From a Balcony in Spain

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    A solo episode recorded on a balcony in Spain, with trains passing by every 30 minutes. Kristian is on a family trip that has turned into a bit of a training camp, and he catches you up on a hectic month, a smart down week, and what he has learned about training on tired legs.


    Then it is gear time. He walks through his full shoe rotation for easy runs, long runs, recovery days, workouts and racing, and explains why you should not take his word for it. He also gives an honest update on his Whoop journey and the watches he has tried over the last year.


    In this episode:

    - Why Kristian took a down week after a 32K long run and what changed

    - Training in Spain: double days, a beach long run and swim progress

    - Easy and long run shoes: Puma Deviate Pure, ASICS Novablast 6, Nike Vomero Plus

    - Recovery day shoes: Nike Vomero Premium and the Adidas Hyperboost Edge

    - Workout and race shoes: Puma Deviate Nitro Elite, Fast-R3 and ASICS Metaspeed Edge

    - Whoop after a few months, and what AG1 did to his recovery score

    - Coros, Garmin and the watches he has tested

    - Why he buys his own shoes so he can stay honest


    Timestamps

    00:00 Welcome and a solo episode from Spain

    02:29 Update on the last episode with Sofie Haugen

    03:04 Why Kristian is in Spain

    06:13 The 32K long run and the down week

    09:05 Travel day, a tired body and a workout

    12:29 A 29K long run along the beach

    14:49 Swim progress and a 26K Monday

    16:31 Shoe rotation: how Kristian thinks about it

    18:06 Strava collaboration and the Marathon Podcast club

    19:12 Shoes for easy and long runs

    22:54 Shoes for recovery days

    25:18 Trying new brands: Adidas Hyperboost Edge

    26:15 Shoes for workouts and races

    28:12 Fast-R3 vs ASICS Metaspeed Edge

    29:16 Metaspeed Sky vs Ray

    32:00 Whoop update and AG1

    37:11 Watches: Coros and Garmin

    43:12 Wrap-up and what is coming next


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    45 min
  • #232 Sofie Karoline Haugen: from Winter Olympian to 69 half marathoner

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    How does a winter Olympian become a 1:09 half marathoner in two years? Sofie Karoline Haugen skated for Norway at the 2022 Olympics, retired from speed skating in 2024, and has since run 10K in 31:57 and a 1:09 half marathon at the Copenhagen half, just a year after running 1:18 in the same city.

    Kristian and Sofie have known each other for around 17 years and both come from speed skating. In this conversation, Sofie looks back on her career: the years without progress, the decision to move to Stavanger and rebuild her training, the 2019 breakthrough that took her to ninth in the world, and the Olympic Games. She explains why she walked away when she was still skating well, and how a casual 3K on the track turned into a running career.

    Then the conversation turns to training. Sofie takes us through her week at 170 to 180 kilometers, including double threshold days, how she keeps her easy days easy, why consistency matters most, how she chooses shoes for different days as someone who works at the running store Löplabbet, and what she has learned about bicarbonate. She also reveals that her first marathon is coming up in November.

    In this episode:

    • From speed skating to a 1:09 half marathon
    • The years of hard work before the breakthrough
    • Moving to Stavanger and rebuilding her training
    • Qualifying for the Olympics
    • Why she quit skating in 2024
    • Her first races as a runner
    • Racing the Copenhagen half
    • Shoes for different days, including the Alphafly 4
    • A full week at 170 to 180 kilometers
    • Building strength without getting injured
    • Her first marathon

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introducing Sofie
    01:17 Saysky
    01:51 Interview begins
    02:19 From skater to 1:09 half marathoner
    04:15 Sofie’s skating background
    05:56 Years of hard work, and the setback
    08:03 Moving to Stavanger
    13:17 Ninth in the world
    14:25 Qualifying for the Olympics
    16:43 Why she quit skating
    19:07 The moment she knew
    22:36 Starting to run
    23:16 A 9:29 3K
    25:02 Working at Löplabbet and her coach
    27:46 Racing in Copenhagen last year
    31:24 A 31:57 10K
    35:19 The Copenhagen Half Marathon
    37:15 Running 1:09
    40:30 Alphafly 4 vs Alphafly 3
    43:43 Shoes for different days
    49:26 Injuries and building strength
    53:33 A week of training
    59:18 Why consistency matters
    1:09:46 Bicarbonate
    1:11:56 Her first marathon
    1:13:26 Wrap up

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    1 hr 15 min
  • #231 Tim Howard was a heroin addict - now he is a runner and Ironman

    Content note: This episode includes open discussion of drug addiction, homelessness, violence, mental health and suicidal thoughts (mainly between 05:00 and 12:00). Please take care while listening. If you or someone you know is struggling with substance use in the US, the SAMHSA National Helpline is available at 1-800-662-4357.


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    Tim Howard went from a decade of heroin addiction and years of homelessness to running marathons, finishing an Ironman and working for the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. In this episode of The Marathon Podcast, Tim shares how a flyer for a running group, and a hug on his first morning there, changed the direction of his life.


    Kristian first came across Tim in an Athletic Brewing documentary about Ironman, and their conversation goes much deeper than the race. Tim talks about what early recovery really looks like, the role of community in staying sober, and how running became a healthy outlet. He also opens up about the lows that came with injuries and surgery, and why giving back has been the thing that keeps him grounded.


    You will also hear about his first marathon four months into sobriety, running with a pacer and thanking every volunteer on the course, his Ironman Lake Placid journey, and his role at Monumental, where he now helps others reach the start line of their first marathon.

    In this episode:

    • Tim’s story, from addiction to recovery
    • Early sobriety and what the first two years feel like
    • Finding Back on My Feet and a community that accepted him
    • How to acknowledge people experiencing homelessness
    • Trading one obsession for a healthier one
    • Overtraining, ankle surgery and a dark period
    • His first marathon and why he thanks every volunteer
    • Ironman Lake Placid
    • Giving back through the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon


    Timestamps
    00:00 Introducing Tim
    01:18 Kristian’s quick update
    01:49 Saysky
    02:20 Interview begins
    02:31 The Athletic Brewing documentary
    04:06 Tim today
    05:21 Life before running
    07:07 Hitting bottom and getting sober
    08:52 Detox and the first weeks
    11:55 The first two years of recovery
    13:08 Identity in and out of addiction
    15:48 Back on My Feet
    18:18 The hug that changed everything
    20:23 How to show up for people experiencing homelessness
    24:09 Finding community
    25:16 Accountability and starting over
    30:13 Trading heroin for running
    32:03 Injury, surgery and a dark period
    33:22 Finding a new way to belong
    35:08 Tim’s first marathon
    41:55 Becoming the community guy
    43:37 Thanking the volunteers
    47:15 What goes into a major marathon
    48:16 Photography and the road to Ironman
    51:37 Anxiety and staying on course
    54:48 Why Tim never goes back
    56:54 Ironman training
    1:00:18 The documentary and the team
    1:04:17 Finishing Lake Placid
    1:07:46 Working for Monumental
    1:10:03 Wrap up

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    1 hr 12 min
  • #230 How a 777 Pilot Runs a 2:42 Marathon: Alex Orr on Training Around Flights, Jet Lag & the OTQ

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    How do you train for a 2:42 marathon while flying as an international airline pilot? In this episode of The Marathon Podcast, part of our series with Tracksmith’s Stamata team, Kristian talks with Alex Orr, a United Airlines pilot who flies the Boeing 777 and runs for Georgetown Running Club in Washington, D.C.


    Alex is a 2:42 marathoner (set in Berlin) and a 1:15 half marathoner, and she is chasing an Olympic Trials qualifier. She explains how she plans every week around her flight schedule, why she protects her hard workouts at home, how she handles jet lag and cancelled flights, and what a normal training week looks like when she is gone for days at a time. We also talk about cockpit naps, recovery on layovers, and how she tells the difference between a tough day and a day to back off.


    Alex shares the story of how she found her way back to running after stepping away from the sport, what she learned from two marathons that did not go to plan, and how being part of Stamata, led by Steph Bruce and supported by Tracksmith, has shaped her journey.


    In this episode:

    • How a 777 pilot fits in a marathon build
    • Planning workouts around flights, jet lag and delays
    • Joining Tracksmith’s Stamata team
    • Stepping away from running and finding her way back
    • From a 2:46 in Chicago to a 2:42 in Berlin
    • Learning from Indianapolis and Eugene, two marathons that did not go to plan
    • A 1:15 half marathon
    • A full training week, including VO2 sessions and long runs
    • Recovery, sleep and naps in the cockpit
    • Her next goal at CIM


    Timestamps
    00:00 Introducing Alex
    01:07 Kristian’s training update
    02:31 Welcome, and fitting running around flights
    07:13 Who Alex is and how she got into running
    08:05 Living the dream as a pilot and runner
    08:57 Joining Tracksmith’s Stamata team
    11:15 Flight schedules, bidding and training camps
    13:13 Getting time off for races
    14:52 Early years of running
    18:15 Her coaches
    19:49 Life after college
    20:23 Losing her father
    22:52 Coming back with GRC
    24:29 The breakthrough in Chicago and 2:42 in Berlin
    25:15 Grief and running
    27:39 What running means to her
    30:01 What drives her
    31:51 Chasing the OTQ
    32:42 Indianapolis and Eugene, and what went wrong
    37:47 The 1:15 half marathon
    39:11 Lessons from the marathon
    41:42 A typical training week
    46:39 Marathon pace work and long runs
    50:04 Recovery, sleep and cockpit naps
    52:08 International trips and training around them
    56:14 Recovery data on work days
    59:22 Running in layover cities
    1:03:41 Next up: CIM
    1:05:56 Outro

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    1 hr 7 min
  • #229 Supadupaslim (Michael Morris): The Slowest Kid on the Team Became a 2:15 Marathoner

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    Michael, better known as SupaDupa Slim, is a 2:15 marathoner from Austin, Texas, coached by Jeff Cunningham of Bat City Track Lab. His path to 2:15 has been anything but linear: from the slow kid on the team in a small Texas town, to a marathon that fell apart in the second half, to missing the Olympic Trials standard by seconds, and finally to running 2:15 at the McCurdy Pro Marathon and qualifying.

    In this conversation, Michael breaks down what actually moved the needle: small, steady jumps instead of big leaps, a smarter approach to mileage, learning to run marathon pace without fear, and why time alone should never define you as a runner. He walks through his training week for the marathon, the block behind the 2:15, and the race itself. He also explains where the SupaDupa Slim name comes from.

    Before the interview, Kristian shares his own training update on the road to a sub-2:30 attempt in Valencia, including a 3:21 per kilometer opener in a session he did not expect to hold.

    In this episode:

    • Where the name SupaDupa Slim comes from
    • From slow kid to 2:15 marathoner, 25 years of running
    • Two first marathons and what they taught him
    • Overtraining, injury and rebuilding with patience
    • Why small jumps and consistency beat big leaps
    • How to chase a faster pace without freezing up
    • A full marathon training week and the block behind the 2:15
    • His mileage philosophy and advice for runners
    • The McCurdy Pro Marathon, mile by mile
    • Next up: the Houston Half Marathon and a Boston pro field hope

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introducing Michael
    01:44 Kristian’s training update
    02:08 Saysky
    14:45 Interview begins
    14:52 The name SupaDupa Slim
    16:52 What running means to Michael
    20:03 Staying consistent for 25 years
    22:32 Growing up with running siblings
    26:40 His first marathons
    32:43 Learning what it takes
    39:01 Injury and rebuilding
    41:00 Time goals and the ceilings we create
    44:53 Learning to run faster paces
    48:17 Commitment and decision making
    51:07 Coach Jeff Cunningham
    53:32 A marathon block for 2:15
    1:00:12 Recovery and fueling
    1:03:49 Small habits and mobility
    1:06:23 Mileage advice
    1:10:23 Doing less and feeling better
    1:13:24 A week of marathon training
    1:17:45 The McCurdy Pro Marathon
    1:23:06 Qualifying, emotions and the finish
    1:26:11 What’s next
    1:27:34 Wrap up

    Michael on Instagram: @supadupaslim

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    1 hr 29 min

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