The Marketer's Exit

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The Marketer's Exit episodes

  • Luke Winter of Deadpan on Making $850K in Year One With Funny B2B Ads (Ep. 36)

    Deadpan has no employees, runs about four projects at once, and still keeps 40 to 50% of every project. Luke Winter explains how a bench of freelancers, a clear approval process, and a productized offer let him run a video studio from anywhere.


    • Why Luke is still haunted by payroll from his old agency
    • How a script-to-set process keeps clients out of the weeds
    • What a freelance producer and a comedy editor are worth


    0:00 – Intro

    3:45 – Luke's background and 12 years in B2B video

    6:39 – Why Luke did not want to start another company

    8:50 – The Too Many Hats ads and the sitcom format

    11:37 – Falling into the comedy niche

    13:50 – How the team comes up with funny ideas

    17:15 – Shooting American ads in the UK

    21:22 – The approval process from script to set

    22:37 – Productized packages vs retainers

    24:32 – Running four projects at once with freelancers

    25:45 – Why Luke has no employees

    27:52 – Margins on video projects

    29:03 – Costumes, props, and who keeps them

    31:38 – Pricing and the $7,500 Comedy Kit

    35:49 – Convincing B2B brands to go funny

    38:09 – Safe brands vs unhinged ads

    39:26 – When to turn down risk-averse clients

    40:46 – Confessional: the scariest moment in business

    43:57 – How a payment scare changed Luke's billing

    45:28 – First-year revenue

    46:30 – Running a UK crew remotely

    50:12 – Underrated advice

    53:10 – Overrated advice

    54:27 – Where the name Deadpan came from


    This episode is sponsored by Unbounce.


    If you're running paid media and sending clicks to a generic homepage or a landing page nobody has touched in a year, Tas built the fix for that. Her Core Four framework is the only four landing pages your B2B paid media program actually needs, and she is giving away the Unbounce templates, the Figma files, and other helpful tools for free.

    • Unbounce
    • Grab the full toolkit here


    #AgencyLife #FreelanceTeam #B2BVideo


    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson
    • Tas Bober
    • The Marketer's Exit


    Guest speaker:

    • Luke Winter
    1 hr 1 min
  • Fletch's Anthony Pierri and Rob Kaminski: From $300 Audits to $30K Projects (Ep. 35)

    Fletch started with $300 homepage audits and now charges $10K, $20K, or $30K depending on how much a company has raised. Anthony Pierri and Rob Kaminski explain how they raised prices, why almost nobody pushes back, and how they decide when to bend on a border case.


    - How three pricing tiers replaced one flat rate

    - What happened when sprints passed $7,500 and then $10K

    - Why they now take one project each per week


    0:00 Intro

    6:29 Nine months of failed cold outreach

    10:46 The headless CMS experiment that proved niching works

    18:37 Spinning out of Headway

    32:30 Why a co-founder matters

    38:58 The “big baby” decision rule

    50:37 Testing a cohort model

    59:28 Revenue and pricing tiers

    1:05:44 Underrated and overrated advice for going solo


    #PricingStrategy #ProductizedServices #SoloConsultant


    This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠Unbounce⁠⁠.


    If you're running paid media and sending clicks to a generic homepage or a landing page nobody has touched in a year, Tas built the fix for that. Her Core Four framework is the only four landing pages your B2B paid media program actually needs, and she is giving away the Unbounce templates, the Figma files, and other helpful tools for free.


    Grab the full toolkit ⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠.


    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson
    • Tas Bober
    • The Marketer's Exit


    Guest speakers:

    • Anthony Pierri
    • Rob Kaminski
    • https://www.fletchpmm.com/
    1 hr 9 min
  • How We Made $50K From Referrals (and Other Solo Business Q&A)

    The solo Q&A episode. We asked LinkedIn your biggest questions, and the community didn't hold back. Everything from PTO and hiring to referrals, origin stories, and what still feels uncomfortable years in.


    0:00 – Intro

    2:25 – How do you take PTO as a full-time solo

    19:16 – Is there ROI in traveling to B2B events

    29:30 – When did you know it was time to hire help

    40:19 – How referral partnerships actually start ($50K earned)

    48:33 – What made you go out on your own

    55:07 – Is your primary offer still the same

    1:03:18 – The most uncomfortable part of running solo

    1:06:25 – Writing on social while still employed


    #FreelanceMarketing #SoloConsultant #ConsultingLife


    This episode is sponsored by ⁠Unbounce⁠. If you're running paid media and sending clicks to a generic homepage or a landing page nobody has touched in a year, Tas built the fix for that. Her Core Four framework is the only four landing pages your B2B paid media program actually needs, and she is giving away the Unbounce templates, the Figma files, and other helpful tools for free.


    Grab the full toolkit ⁠HERE⁠.


    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson
    • Tas Bober
    • The Marketer's Exit
    1 hr 2 min
  • Why Connor Lewis Almost Quit in Year One, and What Got Him to $1.3M (Ep. 33)

    Connor Lewis's revenue has gone from $114K in year one to $448K, to $858K, to pacing $1.3M in year four. What the numbers do not show is the year he was crying at Christmas, barely making rent in Boston, and seriously applying for creative director roles because he thought he had made a mistake. His then-girlfriend talked him out of it. He is glad she did. This episode covers all four years.



    0:00 – Intro

    4:47 – From video intern to a team of three at Predictive Index and the layoff that started everything

    8:06 – Going all in on a $10K severance check with no sales skills and no LinkedIn presence

    13:57 – Year one rock bottom: $70K revenue, 60-hour weeks, and applying for jobs at Christmas

    17:22 – The pricing evolution and why Tas immediately told him $40K starting price was still too low

    19:13 – What the full Studio Lewis deliverable actually looks like for a $40K engagement

    25:09 – The workshop: $5K to start, applied as a credit, 60% close rate, and why it changed everything

    29:09 – Choosing project-based over retainer and building an offboarding engine that drives renewals

    40:24 – Iris, the first full-time hire, and what Connor does now instead of running shoots himself

    43:05 – The $30K project that was never used, the on-set disaster, and the client who came back



    #FreelanceMarketing #VideoMarketing #SoloFounder



    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson
    • Tas Bober
    • The Marketer's Exit
    51 min
  • Dave Gerhardt on Almost Shutting Down Exit Five and the 3-Line Email That Saved It (Ep. 32)

    Dave Gerhardt thought he was burnt out on B2B marketing. He was actually just burnt out on being alone. He had close to $1M a year, a community, a newsletter, a podcast, and nobody to complain to when something went wrong. This episode, live at the Exit 5 event in Stormont, is the most candid version of that story he has probably told.



    0:00 – Intro

    4:21 – Why the Drift return did not work and why being a disruptor to the existing team was not sustainable

    6:54 – Solo consulting, $10K a month from a few companies, and why it felt like the answer

    7:01 – DGMG to Exit 5: Patreon, Facebook group, flagship sponsors, and almost $1M solo

    9:14 – Dharmesh as an OG Facebook member and the naming advice Dave took seriously

    13:38 – Moving the community off Facebook, losing $30K a month, and doing it anyway

    15:44 – Burning out and nearly walking away to start something completely different

    16:22 – The email to Dan, the offer structure, and what happened when Dan saw the numbers

    19:16 – Realizing he was burnt out on being alone, not on the work

    21:21 – Building a team of nine and landing close to $5M with no outside capital

    22:19 – What the creator plus operator model actually looks like day to day

    30:13 – Momentum creates clarity and why waiting until you are ready is the wrong move



    #B2BMarketing #CreatorEconomy #FreelanceMarketing



    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson
    • Tas Bober
    • The Marketer's Exit
    39 min
  • Eric MacColl on Leaving Atlassian and the Referral Network That Built His Business (Ep. 31)

    Eric MacColl spent 15 years climbing the in-house ladder from a paid search agency to Scripted to Lyft to Atlassian, where he watched his team grow to 60 people and realized he had stopped doing any actual marketing. He was being managed up and out of the work he loved. Four and a half years into running Demand Gen Solutions, mostly from referral business.


    0:00 – Intro

    0:55 – Agency to Scripted to Lyft to Atlassian and the Tom Brady on the sidelines moment

    6:12 – How the first clients came in from former Atlassian colleagues

    9:00 – 80 to 90% referral business and the network plays that made it possible

    12:58 – Flat rate retainers, four-client cap, and how he manages scope creep

    17:20 – Why he struggles to scale and why he keeps choosing to go deeper instead

    22:10 – The Emily Kramer recommended contractor list and what it did for inbound

    25:00 – The private equity portfolio model and why it reduces how often he has to sell

    40:49 – The March gap, the tax bill he did not see coming, and the interview calls he started taking

    47:09 – Why he does not post on LinkedIn and what happens every time he does

    49:37 – $30K a month, a one-year-old, a new house, and why San Francisco keeps him from slowing down


    #FreelanceMarketing #FractionalMarketing #SoloConsultant


    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson – linkedin.com/in/tadavidson41
    • Tas Bober – linkedin.com/in/tasbober
    • The Marketer's Exit – themarketersexit.com
    52 min
  • Eric Linssen Built a 700-Member Invite-Only Community on Annual Sponsorships Alone (Ep. 30)

    Eric Linssen spent years running Demand Collective as a paid community that stayed stuck at 80 members no matter what he tried. Then he got laid off, gave himself one quarter to make it work, switched to a free model funded entirely by annual sponsorships, and watched everything click. He is now 700 members in, has 9,000 newsletter subscribers, and runs it completely solo from San Diego. In this episode he tells the full story.


    0:00 – Intro

    3:27 – What Demand Collective is, who gets in, and why the membership criteria matter

    5:22 – Six failed side hustles before this one, including a hot tub rental business and a TikTok analytics tool

    8:41 – Why the paid model stalled at 80 members and what the pivot actually changed

    11:11 – 700 members, 9,000 newsletter subscribers, and the Demand Day Summit with 1,600 registrants

    14:39 – Why sponsorships work inside a community of marketers and how category exclusivity is handled

    17:19 – The content philosophy behind the community: practitioner-first, no vendor bias, zero how-to fluff

    23:42 – Annual contracts, five sponsors, and why shorter deals are a bad deal for everyone

    29:22 – How much work it actually takes to run this solo and what a normal week looks like

    59:04 – The camel vs racehorse framework and his advice on surface area for luck

    59:56 – Would he go back in-house? The most honest answer any TME guest has given


    #FreelanceMarketing #CommunityBuilding #SoloFounder


    Links:

    • Tim Davidson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tadavidson41

    • Tas Bober – http://linkedin.com/in/tasbober

    • The Marketer's Exit – http://themarketersexit.com/

    1 hr 14 min
  • Brand Partnerships Part 3: Reporting, Red Flags, and Contract Rules You Need to Know (Ep. 29)

    Before you sign your next brand deal, watch for these red flags.

    Most brand partnership advice stops at getting the deal. This episode is what happens after: when to send the numbers, how to frame a renewal conversation, what to put in a contract, and the red flags that tell you a brand is going to be more trouble than it is worth.


    0:00 – Intro

    2:50 – Two-part performance reporting: one week out and one month out

    5:13 – Impressions, saves, sends, and the qualitative callouts that make a report stand out

    8:34 – When to use a deck versus a screenshot and how to match the format to the partnership

    12:09 – Asking for a renewal and the one-sentence framing that keeps the door open

    14:02 – How Tas has expanded her Unbounce partnership over three renewals by pitching what she was already going to create

    19:09 – Hashtag ad, the brand toggle, and why Tas stopped using both

    26:49 – Creative freedom as a non-negotiable and what happens when a brand starts editing your voice

    33:00 – The walking billboard problem and how many sponsored posts is too many in one week

    34:11 – Contract terms to watch for, payment red flags, and the impression-based pay deal to always decline


    #BrandPartnerships #FreelanceMarketing #LinkedInMarketing


    Connect with the hosts:

    • Tim Davidson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tadavidson41/
    • Tas Bober – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tasbober/
    • The Marketer's Exit – https://themarketersexit.com/
    37 min
  • LinkedIn Brand Deals Part 2: Pricing, Packages, and Paid Usage Rights (Ep. 28)

    If you do not know what to charge for a sponsored LinkedIn post, this episode gives you a starting point and walks you through an actual brand partnership⁠ deck Tas sends to every brand that's resulted in $100k+ in brand deals. This is part 2 of the brand deals series, make sure to check out the others.


    Tas' Brand partnership


    Timestamp:

    0:00 – Intro

    1:02 – Starting out: letting the brand set the rate versus setting your own floor

    3:46 – Tim's $1,000 minimum, the three-post bundle, and how he frames it as a discount

    7:33 – How to use your consulting hourly rate as a filter for brand deal decisions

    14:24 – Tas's full deck walkthrough: philosophy framing, social proof, and format options

    20:35 – Stats from brand deals

    25:17 – Starter, core, and flagship package tiers explained with real examples

    1:00:41 – What to charge on top of the post: usage rights, thought leader ads, and resource hub listings


    #LinkedInMarketing #BrandPartnerships #FreelanceMarketing


    Links:

    Tim Davidson – linkedin.com/in/tadavidson41

    Tas Bober – linkedin.com/in/tasbober

    The Marketer's Exit – themarketersexit.com

    52 min
  • Making $161K in Brand Partnerships from Posting on LinkedIn. Part 1/3 (Ep.27)

    Brand partnerships on LinkedIn are not just for people with massive followings. Tas and Tim started landing them before they were big, and together they have made $161,000 from posts alone. This episode is the playbook, including pricing, pitching, the three-post rule, and small talk that turned into a two-year deal.


    Timestamps:

    0:00 – Intro

    0:56 – Why this episode exists and what the $161K number includes

    3:22 – Tim's first brand deal: UserGems, three months, $2,500 total

    7:12 – The three-post rule and the slot machine logic behind it

    11:03 – The Typeform post that went viral

    13:34 – How Tas turned a landing page audit into a paid brand content format

    17:23 – Four ways to get brand deals and which ones actually work

    21:30 – Tas’s Unbounce partnership and how it started in a Riverside waiting room

    24:49 – How to price your self

    26:22 – What Tim does when a sponsored post underperforms

    27:23 – Tas's highest single-post rate and what happened after it went live


    This is part 1 of a 3 part series, stay tuned for the rest!


    #LinkedInMarketing #FreelanceMarketing #BrandPartnerships


    Links:

    • Tim Davidson – linkedin.com/in/tadavidson41
    • Tas Bober – linkedin.com/in/tasbober
    • The Marketer's Exit – themarketersexit.com
    33 min

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