Al relates how he met Professor Tom Grimm, and that Tom Grimm told him to go to The Masonry Society meeting on his behalf, and be sure to find Mike Schuller. From there the stories and history progress, including more recent developments in The Masonry Society, and how crucial it is for both engineers and masons to belong.

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