The Marvel Cinematic Universe is full of so many different characters. Powerful ones, smart ones, funny ones and straight up volatile ones. It’s why watching them when they all come together to form The Avengers can feel unpredictable but a thrilling adventure all the same.

That’s why we decided to do a draft of our Top 5 Avengers to see if we could form our ideal team to fight against the evil in the world.

For this one, we needed a Marvel super fan. That’s why we enlisted Gotham Podcast Studio and Tandem co-founder Mike Ortiz for this exercise.

And with the release of Black Widow this past weekend, we also get into a short, spoiler-free discussion about the film. Unfortunately, can’t say that about the rest of the discussion.

So let us know what you think of our teams, and maybe give us your own Top 5? We’d love to hear it.