After nearly seven hours of uninterrupted conversation, what began as a catch-up session turned into a profound exploration of life's mysteries. The first half of this podcast delves into Brandon Ruff's background, starting from his arrival in Oroville, his high school wrestling days, and his subsequent move to Sierra College in the greater Sacramento area.

Of course, we stopped along the way to explore all relevant conspiracy theories.

Then, unexpectedly, he vanished, or as we often joked, he was "lost in Lodi." We delve further into the reasons behind his disappearance and how the past two decades unfolded for him. Just as I was about to wrap up, considering it was already 2:00 am for me, Chris Adams called and joined in the conversation, briefly interrupting the podcast. However, we saw it as an opportunity and invited him to join in on a three-way discussion. We continued for another four hours, concluding this extensive journey.

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