Zac and Andrew sit down to discuss The Atacama Mummy, Zac’s haunted mirror, Reiki healing, atheism with benefits, the fragility of our memory of history, the linearity of worldview development, the inevitability of concrete, why Star Trek aliens are mostly human, cosmic horror, humans as the perfect virus, finding validation through others, the folly of judging others, the conversations humanity ought to be having, the cost of using Twitter, and we debate whether or not progress is real.