On this episode of Nemo Nation, Dave Nemo and Jimmy Mac welcome Rick Mihelic—Director of Emerging Technologies for NACFE and President of Mihelic Vehicle Consulting—for a deep dive into the latest phase of Run On Less: The Messy Middle. With over four decades of experience in advanced vehicle development, including groundbreaking work with Peterbilt, Lockheed, NASA, and the DOE, Rick shares insights from recent site visits and how real-world fleets are navigating the complex transition between diesel and zero-emission technologies. From aerodynamics to EV integration, this conversation explores what’s working, what’s not, and what it will take to bridge the gap in freight’s future.