"I see metamodernism everywhere!"Peter Clarke and Greg Dember discuss how metamodernism can now be found in all aspects of our culture—from Sufjan Stevens lyrics to Taylor Swift concerts to our daily conversations. They also discuss why some people (notably Christians) push back against metamodernism. And finally they grapple with the implications AI will have on our culture and our understanding of what it means to be human.Greg Dember is a co-founder of watismatamodern.com and is author of the new book Say Hello to Metamodernism.

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