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In this episode of absurd wisdom, a.m. is joined by Ben Heller, CTO of Driver Technologies, for a conversation about alternatives to traditional ways of working, the middle path, and a host of other topics as they explore what it means to find fulfillment in today's world.

You can find a.m. on Instagram and TikTok at @absurdwisdom. We are produced and distributed by DAE Presents, the production arm of DAE (@dae.community on Instagram and online at mydae.org).

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