Storytelling is a fundamental part of being human. Our personal narratives enable us to connect with the stories of other individuals — they also give us inspiration and allow us to inspire others. 

In this episode Terrie and Jonathan have a deep conversation about narrative by sharing their own personal experience and journeys. They discuss how narrative can be a force for personal transformation, or for manipulative selling of products.

Don’t miss this!

What we learned from Terrie and Jonathan in this episode:

- The relationship between narrative and financial outcomes.

- The deep connection between transformational process and narrative. 

- What does authentic narrative truly mean?

- How to achieve transformation through the tool of narrative. 

Success Quotes:

“I don't see how you can go through a transformational process without rewriting whatever narrative you have.” -Terrie Schauer

“The more tied down to that narrative you are, the less you can become.” -Jonathan DeYoe

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:13 - Jonathan talks about how narrative interacts with financial outcomes. 

03:27 - Terrie explains why transformational process will not happen without rewriting your narrative, 

06:18 -  Jonathan discusses what authentic narrative is. 

07:55 - Terrie describes the connection between ego constructs and narrative.

10:27 - Jonathan shares his own story of success — losing weight and starting his own business.

15:09 - Jonathan reveals how he achieved the transformation through the tool of narrative. 

17:18 - Terrie breaks down what the great narrative of overcoming truly means and how we can achieve the true transformation. 

21:24 - Terrie shares how narratives affected her financial situation. 

24:02 - Jonathan shares his final thoughts on narrative as a tool to facilitate becoming and to facilitate overcoming. 

26:35 - Outro

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

What is a “scarcity mindset”? Where does it come from?

Are feelings of scarcity cultural, psychological, economic? It’s not always easy to discern. 

In this episode, Terrie and Jonathan unpack what scarcity mindset feels like, where it comes from, and what steps might be taken to counter it at a personal and wider level.  

Don’t miss this!

What we learned from Terrie and Jonathan in this episode:

- What does it feel like to have a scarcity mindset?

- Scarcity Mindset, Social Status, and Inequality... how are they related?

- The true nature of global inequality. 

- The arguments about Piketty’s book and Darwin economics. 

- How to bridge the gap between meritocracy and scarcity mindset.

- Is there a trade off for everything? 

Success Quotes:

“The reality is, everyone alive in the US and Canada today is incredibly lucky. We would all prefer being here than anywhere 150 years ago.” -Jonathan DeYoe

“It's the fish not being aware of the water, because something allows all of those proceeds to go to the very top.” -Terrie Schauer

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:17 - Jonathan describes what it feels like to have a scarcity mindset.

04:26 - Terrie and Jonathan discuss the correlation between a scarcity mindset and low social status.

10:42 - Does the culture reflect and reinforce a scarcity mindset in people affected by it? (... a look at the true nature of global inequality.)

14:37 - Terrie and Jonathan talk about the level of inequality based on Piketty's book. (... Is it a problem of meritocracy?)

19:19 - Is the world a more meritocratic place now than it was years ago? (... let’s hear about Darwin economics and the arguments that Piketty’s R is greater than G.) 

27:01 - The meritocracy for a common man. 

30:06 - Can we bridge the gap between meritocracy and scarcity mindset? (... let's listen to what Jonathan has to say.)

35:29 - Jonathan shares a very interesting topic about trade offs. 

38:27 - Outro

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

Most Western economies–the United States, Britain, Canada, the Scandinavian countries and Spain to name a few–are experiencing high levels of debt associated with housing combined with intense affordability issues. In some economies, the 2008 crisis corrected house prices to some degree, but in the post-COVID environment house-prices have once again risen. Similar or greater levels of debt have again manifested themselves. 

Is the root of this a problem with credit markets and mortgage debt? 

Don’t miss this second part of our interview with Greg Fuller as we dive deep down the realm of housing debt. 

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Greg Fuller in this episode:

- The effect of debt in housing. (... a glimpse of hope as Greg compared the situation to 10-15 years ago.) 

- Does building more housing actually solves the housing crisis? (... let’s hear the consequences of this idea.)

- The shift from rural to more urban economies — is it good or bad? 

- How does Capital Control prevent foreign investors from abusing the system? 

- How does the cross border flow of capital affect the housing crisis?

Success Quotes:

“If you give capital kind of a structural advantage over labor, you're gonna get growing inequality on a global scale.”

“I think that whatever you mean with wealth, you can't think about it without thinking about what you have and what you contribute to the people around you.”

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

02:04 - At what point does debt become the problem? Greg shares his take on this issue. 

06:27 - Can we solve the housing crisis by building houses like there's no tomorrow? (... a look at how Supply and Demand affects this idea.)

12:17 - Greg discusses how the housing crisis can be resolved when it is in the hands of the right individuals.

15:54 -  Greg talks about the effect of the shift from rural to more urban economies. 

21:17 - Greg adds another micro element as to why people tend to concentrate in one area. 

24:24 - Greg shares how capital control works. 

28:49 - Is there a problem with foreign investors building up housing stock that is not serving local demand? Let’s hear what Greg has to say. 

34:06 - What does true wealth mean to Greg? 

35:43 - Ways to reach out with Greg. 

36:10 - Outro

Connect with Greg Fuller:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-fuller-066a571b/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

So where do housing markets stand today? That is the biggest question we have.

The global capital markets and financial excesses have transformed global housing and real estate markets all over the world. Combined with inadequate capitalization and insufficient safeguards in the financial system, unsustainable home mortgages were at the root of the crisis. 

Join us in this episode as we feature our special guest, Gregory Fuller, Assistant Professor at University of Groningen and author of the book “The Political Economy of Housing Financialization” as he offers a number of policy suggestions intended to weaken the links between housing, economic instability, and inequality.

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Greg Fuller in this episode:

- How is housing related to the concept of true wealth? 

- What’s the housing status in post-COVID season? (... a look at the unique thing in this season.)

- How national housing systems diverge in terms of their commodification and financialization.

- Are we now achieving financial equality when it comes to housing affordability?  

- The Safe Assets Shortage Conundrum — what’s happening in today’s economy? 

Success Quotes:

“It's hard to talk about wealth in any meaningful sense without talking about houses.”

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:16 - Greg shares his background and how he was able to attain what he has today. 

03:56 - What’s the relationship of housing in true wealth? (... let’s hear what Greg has to say.)

06:53 - What is the unique thing in post-COVID?

09:19 - Is today’s season the season of equality when it comes to financial accessibility?

12:58 - How is it that housing became the store of middle class wealth? (... a history of why it became the generative of inequality.)

20:31 - Greg talks about The Safe Assets Shortage Conundrum and how it affects the current economy. 

23:57 - Outro 

Connect with Greg Fuller:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-fuller-066a571b/ 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

Can money be invested to make a difference? Can we work to close the gender-wealth gap through investing? 

Our guest in this episode, Felecia Froe MD, tells us from experience that there are a lot of ways to make a difference with money. Founder of Money With Mission, an investment company focused on empowering professional women to build wealth and achieve financial freedom through social impact investing, Felecia tells us about some of the projects she’s invested in. She also tells us about her own journey: from MD to impact investor. 

If you are looking for ways on how to bridge the wealth gap and how to invest while helping the community at the same time, this episode is for you! 

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Felecia Froe in this episode:

• What does “true wealth” mean to Felecia?

Success Quotes:

“Women are better or have more experience in building community and that collaboration, or at least cooperation kind of community work.” -Felecia Froe

“Mistakes are the way you learn.” -Felecia Froe

“Questions are the way to learn anything, if you have no idea where to start.” -Felecia Froe

“Working together to build the things that we need in this world to make it the place that it should be.” -Felecia Froe

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

00:59 - Felecia shares a little of her career journey.

02:34 - What does “true wealth” mean to Felecia? 

06:47 - Money With Mission — Felecia talks about the birth of her noble investment company. 

09:30 - How does Money With Mission operate and help people? 

13:52 - Grocery store in the desert — Felecia talks about their latest project “FreshRX food as medicine program”. 

17:50 -  Felecia shares her experience of being an MD while in the investment space and being a woman of color.

22:08 - Felecia talks about her chapter in the book “Ignite the Hunger in You: How to Develop Your Greatness and Ignite Humanity”. 

23:32 - How can we manage the imbalance in equity-gap? Felecia shares an interesting advice to women to help them build more financial abundance and true wealth.

27:47 - Financial gap — Felecia provides her insights about the imbalance of this among men and women. 

30:39 - Is there a wealth disparity in terms of the true wealth factor?

32:29 - Felecia offers her thoughts about men and women confidence.

34:48 - How should men help women to bridge the gap in financial wealth? 

36:44 - Felecia shares her final thoughts about women and health, and ways to connect with her. 

Resource(s):

Ignite the Hunger in You: How to Develop Your Greatness and Ignite Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Ignite-Hunger-You-Greatness-Humanity/dp/1792341768 

Connect with Felecia Froe:

Website: https://moneywithmission.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moneywithmission/ 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

According to National Women's Law Center analysis, women’s labor force participation was 57.0 percent in February 2021. Before the pandemic, the last time women’s labor force participation had been this low was in 1988. Women lost more than 12.2 million jobs from February 2020 through April 2020, 11.3 million of which were in April alone, which means one month of the pandemic’s losses wiped out nearly an entire decade of women’s job gains since the Great Recession.

Given these statistics, is there a way for women to stop the feeling of powerlessness about money and shift out of the scarcity mindset?

Yes, there definitely is! Join us in this episode as we have an open conversation with Leisa Peterson, Business Strategist, Money Coach, Author of the book “The Mindful Millionaire”, of how women can transition from scarcity mindset to abundance, how to unlock their wealth and unleash their fullest potential to finally walk the path of true wealth. 

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Leisa Peterson in this episode:

- What does “true wealth” mean to Leisa? 

- From scarcity mindset to abundance — How to break the cycle of fear, grief, and shame that often surrounds your money habits.

- How to finally overcome your scarcity mindset. (... a look at Leisa’s inspiring personal experience.) 

- The biggest challenge that women face in wealth building. (... and how to resolve it!) 

- The relationship between historical self worth and the current financial situation.

- Mindful Millionaire — What makes this book unique and how can you become a "Mindful Millionaire"?

- How scarcity becomes tunneling?

- How can men help to bridge the gender wealth gap?

Success Quotes:

“Women culturally have not been empowered by the condition systems to comfortably ask for what we want.”

“Separation is scarcity.”

“What mindfulness does is it changes the way we're thinking about money on the planet.”

“It's helpful to have people outside of yourself who aren't stuck in that same dynamic, who have a different perspective to communicate and connect.”

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:14 - Leisa shares the three phases of her life – how her scarcity mindset helps her build her wealth and how it helps people. 

05:42 - What does “true wealth” mean to Leisa? 

08:40 - Our fundamental processes and beliefs create the basis for a healthy financial mindset — what’s the biggest challenge that women face specifically? 

11:17 - From scarcity mindset to abundance: Leisa gives us a direct example of her mindset shift. 

14:54 - Leisa shares her experience on how she finally breakthroughs from a scarcity mindset. 

18:36 -  Is there a difference between the United States and other countries in terms of scarcity of financial resources?

21:54 - Leisa unpacks the relationship between historical self worth and the current financial situation. 

24:00 - Leisa talks about her book, Mindful Millionaire. 

26:38 - What does Mindful Millionaire really mean? 

28:00 - Leisa talks about her “I PROSPER” process. 

29:50 - How scarcity becomes tunneling and why is that problematic?

35:01 - Leisa offers her advice for people who are facing different kinds of stressful financial situations. 

39:01 - How do we empower people that are on the losing end of the struggle to rise up?

44:15 - How should men help women to bridge the wealth gap? 

47:39 - Outro 

Resource(s):

Mindful Millionaire book: https://www.mindfulmillionairebook.com/ 

National Women's Law Center analysis: https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Final_NWLC_Press_CovidStats.pdf 

Connect with Leisa Peterson:

Website: https://www.wealthclinic.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leisapeterson1/ 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

We talk a lot about the wage-gap, but what about the wealth-gap? Financial independence eludes many women even beyond the wage-gap. The effects of this disparity ripple outward not only to women, but also to their families and communities. 

What levers can we pull on to address this? 

Join us for this episode with Nancy Levin, best-selling author, master life coach, founder of Levin Life Coach Academy, and host of Your Permission Prescription Podcast. She talks to us about the real key to creating financial freedom for women: helping them feel worthy of abundance to create greater financial power.

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Nancy Levin in this episode:

- What does “true wealth” mean for Nancy Levin? 

- How to set clear and healthy boundaries? (... a sneak peek of Nancy’s book, Setting Boundaries Will Set You Free) 

- How to put yourself first (without neglecting others). 

- The importance of boosting your self-worth in growing your net worth.

- How to manage distractions, find stillness, and thrive in your path of wealth-building. 

- Why is financial independence important for women? (... plus, the key strategies and methods on how to achieve it!) 

- In what ways can men help women in wealth-building?

Success Quotes:

“I believe that boundaries really are the scaffolding that allow us to curate and create the life that we most want to live.” -Nancy Levin

“I do believe having really clear boundaries allows us to experience true wealth.” -Nancy Levin

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:04 - Nancy talks about her life’s journey. 

03:19 - What does “true wealth” mean for Nancy Levin?

05:16 - How can we set clear and healthy boundaries?

08:44 - Nancy discusses how we can organize our priorities even when the world is coming at us. 

12:18 - Nancy speaks about how we can effectively handle requests. 

16:20 - Self worth and boundaries: How does that translate into wealth?

20:44 - Male versus Female confidence: Why is there an imbalance in the investment world? 

25:34 - Nancy talks about her new book and the importance of narrative in wealth building. 

31:16 - How can we unleash the power to take responsibility? 

33:40 - What is that one thing that women could focus on to bridge the wealth gap?

41:41 - Ways to connect with Nancy Levin.

Resource(s):

The Art of Money: A Life-Changing Guide to Financial Happiness: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Money-Life-Changing-Financial-Happiness/dp/1941529208

Connect with Nancy Levin:

Website: https://nancylevin.com/

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

A sense of belonging–community–is an important part of well-being, but it can also be a big part of succeeding financially. Liza Rogers, founder of the WREN (Women's Real Estate Network) in Canada, strongly believes this. Connecting with others, achieving our goals, and feeling safe and secure can all be achieved through being part of a community — it is indeed an ultimate ingredient to the path of “true wealth”. 

Globally, women-only networks are becoming more prevalent. As women have historically been excluded from “male” business networks that are tied to wealth-building, pioneers like Liza have begun to take the initiative and started their own networks.

Liza didn’t stop there, however. Editor of the new book Ordinary to Extraordinary, she collected and published the life-stories of some of the top women in the Canadian Real Estate space. 

Says Liza: “It’s by seeing the spectrum of what is possible that we lift each other up.” 

In this episode, Liza talks to us about the importance of a community as a wealth-building platform that educates, informs, advocates for, and fuels women to action through collaborative real estate affiliations and alliances. 

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Liza Rogers in this episode:

- The birth of WREN — get to know its origin and noble purpose. 

- What is "true wealth"? (... a look at Liza's view of what true wealth is.) 

- The power of your mindset — turning ordinary to extraordinary. 

- The benefits of having a supportive and united community.

- Women's share of regional wealth… is it going better? 

- Women and wealth — how real estate investing can become a wealth-building platform for women. 

- How to start in real estate investing. (... discover the things that you need to know to get started in real estate investing.) 

Success Quotes:

“We all need to recognize that, we need to let men be men, and we need to let women be women.” -Liza Rogers

“The less fear we have in the world, the more knowledge and respect we have for each other, the stronger we all get to move forward, and the better world we're gonna have.” -Liza Rogers 

“There is enough for everybody, we have abundance. We waste so much, we waste time, we waste money, and we waste resources.” -Liza Rogers 

“Don't be afraid to get started.” -Liza Rogers

“Surround yourself with great people, don't do it alone and just start taking action.” -Liza Rogers

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

01:28 - Liza talks about her life journey — the birth of WREN and her real estate investing career. 

04:01 - Liza defines “true wealth” in its truest sense. 

10:58 - How mindset and a good community can change everything. 

14:16 - Liza talks about her arduous journey and how she conquered it. 

17:03 - Liza discusses some of the challenges women face when it comes to building wealth and investing.

22:41 - Liza highlights the importance of recognizing and respecting each community. 

27:32 - Liza provides an overview about the story behind her book “From Ordinary to Extraordinary: Success Stories from Women Investing in Real Estate”. 

32:13 - Liza explains why she chose real estate investing.

34:45 - Liza shares her insights on women's share of regional wealth. 

36:36 - Liza discusses the numerous advantages of networking in real estate investing.

44:54 - Liza talks about the difference between passive and active investing in real estate. 

48:02 - Liza shares her advice for women who are hesitant to take the plunge into the world of real estate investing.

51:35 - Outro

About the guest:

Liza Rogers, founder of WREN (Women's Real Estate Network), a wide network of ambitious, talented women who are aligned in their values and dreams for a better future - for themselves and their families.

Connect with Liza Rogers:

Website: https://wren.club/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizarogers

From Ordinary to Extraordinary: Success Stories from Women Investing in Real Estate: https://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Extraordinary-Success-Stories-Investing/dp/173750054X 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

Does story-telling have the power to change things? Each of us has a unique personal narrative. A story can change the way we view the world, allowing us to see different perspectives or reframe our own experiences.

Can story-telling help us rewrite our finances? Can we develop a different relationship to wealth and money through the narratives we tell ourselves?

In this episode, our guest Rebecca Walker, an award-winning writer, feminist, and activist, tells us about the power of story-telling and argues that it can contribute to the global conversation about race, gender, power, and the evolution of the human family.

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Rebecca Walker in this episode:

- Rebecca on "True Wealth". 

- The book “Women Talk Money” — A fearless and vivid anthology of essays exploring how money impacts women.

- Women and wealth (... exploring your relationship to money, who you are, and what your relationship to wealth is.) 

- The art of writing new narratives that support your aspirations to live your life in alignment with your true feelings, beliefs, and values.

- Does trauma impact our ability to function?

- How do stories around wealth impact men? (a closer look at men and wealth)

- Putting your mind to work: How to achieve “true wealth” through the dharma 

Success Quotes:

“I believe that changing the story of our culture is as important as changing the story of our personal lives and that they're actually inextricable.” -Rebecca

“Whether it's around race or gender or class or power, you have an intrinsic sense that you can write your own destiny that you can change the dominant story”  -Rebecca

“I do think it is our responsibility to reject scripts that have been written on our bodies, and to write new ones.” -Rebecca

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

02:01 - Rebecca speaks about her definition of “true wealth” in its truest sense. 

05:32 - Rebecca discusses the contents of her book, “Women Talk Money”. 

10:07 - Exploring how trauma impacts our ability to function — urging our traumatized and injured DNA to change.

13:28 - The origin of Rebecca's ideas. (... Her superpower,  journey in life, and spiritual realization.)

22:33 - Rebecca speaks about the idea of personal responsibility. 

26:08 - Rebecca talks about men and wealth. 

29:29 - Rebecca addresses the idea of not giving up in her battles and her spiritual awakening when she turned to Buddhism. 

37:40 - The power of your mind — making things achievable through proper mindset. 

43:14 - Rebecca explains the Epistemic responsibility: How to rewrite your story in a very meaningful way. 

48:00 - Outro

About the guest:

Rebecca Walker has contributed to the global conversation about race, gender, power, and the evolution of the human family for three decades. Since graduating from Yale, she has authored and edited seven bestselling books on subjects ranging from intergenerational feminism and multiracial identity to Black Cool and ambivalent motherhood, and written dozens of articles on topics as varied as Barack Obama’s masculinity, the work of visual artist Ana Mendieta, and the changing configuration of the American family. 

Connect with Rebecca Walker:

Website: https://www.rebeccawalker.com/ 

Connect with us:

Jonathan DeYoe - Money Philosopher LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandeyoe/

Terrie Schauer, PhD - Author of Mindful Landlord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieschauer/

It’s a wrap! Here’s the final episode for season 2 of The Mindful Wealth podcast. But don’t worry, we’re still here! 

We’re excited to give you a sneak peek of the possible future episodes of season 3:

What to expect? 

We have seen a significant increase in female leadership throughout the world, especially in business, finance, and even real estate. Women are starting to break through, achieving high levels of success across a broad range of industries.

There will be women experts in many fields and we will find out how they overcame inequalities and broke through boundaries to find true wealth.

It will be a jam-packed season dedicated to Women and Wealth.

Enjoy listening! 

What we learned from Jonathan DeYoe and Terrie Schauer in this episode:

- What you need to know about upcoming episodes!

- Guests to appear in upcoming episodes.

- Can we expect Jordan Peterson-like episodes? 

Timestamp:

00:00 - Intro

00:51 - Terrie talks about the possible upcoming topics based on the previous episodes.

05:15 - Jonathan and Terrie talk about different economic cycles. 

08:31 - Jonathan talks about individual responsibility. 

10:09 - Can we expect Jordan Peterson-like episodes? 

11:26 - Terrie and Jonathan share themes they would like to unpack in the upcoming season. 

14:56 - Types of guests who are most likely to appear on upcoming episodes.

16:28 - Outro