Dr. Dorothy Lee joins show from down under to talk about her new book The Ministry of Women in the New Testament.

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore and your co host Rex Gurney. And our guest on the show today is the Reverend canon Dorothy Lee. She's the Stewart research professor of New Testament at Trinity College, University of divinity in Melbourne, Australia.

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And actually, this is going to be a first on two fronts for the jest of things podcast because number one is our first international broadcast. And this is the first broadcast where we are actually peering into the future because the voice you are hearing is one day ahead of us right now. Yes,

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kind of kooky. Exactly. She's gonna tell us the future. And Dorothy is an Anglican priest in the Diocese of Melbourne, associated with St. Mary's, North Melbourne, a canon of St. Paul's Cathedral, and of Holy Trinity Cathedral, and a fellow of the Australian Academy of the humanities. her new book is entitled The Ministry of women in the New Testament, reclaiming the biblical vision for church leadership. We really hope you enjoy the show.

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Well, thank you so much for joining us. All the way from Australia. So you are you our first international guest on the podcast. Wow. So let's so it is it is that says award worthy, I think award worthy. You receive it as an award. added to all of your all of your other accolades. But we're really, really excited to to have you on the podcast and to talk about your new book. And but before we kind of get into that, we kind of would love to hear for you to be able to tell our listeners a little bit of your story. How did how did you become the Reverend canon Dorothy Lee?

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I'm not really sure actually. Hang on. I was there and now I'm here. Right? I think I was brought up in a very, very conservative you'd probably say fundamentalist upbringing, in in a form of Presbyterianism called the Free Church. breeze,

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freeze, dried all about that when we were Scotland, we wonder why there were all these searches in a row. And people were telling us about all the little splits in the Church of Scotland.

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side of the egg that you really funny. Yeah, my father was a really was a wonderful man. He and I were very, very close. And, and I don't know, I just developed a love of theology, I think. And he was a scholarly man, and also somewhat more broad minded than his cohort. church because I would only use the King James Version. And he thought it was okay to use the ni vi. So, you know, he was considered a dangerous radical. And, I don't know, I just I felt that I was called into theology and, and then I felt I was called into ministry. So and I talked about it to him, and he's in a church that wouldn't even let women pray or read the Bible. And yet he, you know, totally supported me and my mother was a bit but, but it was great. And at the time, I'm an Anglican Episcopalian, I think you'd probably say and, and I, but at the time, they weren't ordaining women. So I went into the United Church, which was the old union of Presbyterian and Methodist. And I stayed there for a while, but, but I problem to that very hospitable church, but not strong on theology. And also, I regard myself as a conservative in many ways. And that's not how I'm always seeing, but I hear I don't want to be in a church, which never says Father, Son, Holy Spirit, you know, I just felt that that it would become very PC. A little bit too PC for me. Now, that all sounds sounds judgmental, and I feel bad saying that, because I was so good to me, and so hospitable. And so encouraging of women's ministry, but but, you know, there came a point where I really needed to move. So I moved across to the Anglican Church. And that's been more like a home, I mean, a home in every sense of a home, you know, lots of fights.

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But, you know,

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actually one of our colleagues, in f