In this episode of “Faith and Friction,” Mac and The Rev discuss conflict within Christian denominations that restrict

women from leadership roles (pastor, priest, teacher), arguing this marginalizes women and reflects fear-based

control justified by biblical “infallibility,” especially citations like 1 Timothy. They contrast “God said it” conformity

with thoughtful questioning, emphasizing Jesus’ example of love and inclusion and noting women’s roles in

spreading and  funding Jesus’ ministry (e.g., the woman at the well) despite being minimized in scripture’s male-

authored tradition.  Prompted by Southern Baptist Convention actions and examples such as Saddleback Church’s

expulsion, they  advocate a balance between “divine masculine” and “divine feminine” within individuals and

institutions, warn that  church stances shape culture, and encourage listeners to examine motivations, seek

alternative faith communities,  and include women’s perspectives in discussions.