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#299: Link and Josué chat about The Mitchells vs. the Machines, what counts as a dysfunctional family, and how the movie talks about social media.
Transcript
Josué Cardona 0:07
Welcome to gt radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about, my name is Josué Cardona. And I’m joined by Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:20
What’s up gamers?
Josué Cardona 0:23
And only Link Keller? Lara is on vacation from the show. What are we talking about today?
Link Keller 0:29
We are talking about the Mitchell’s versus the machines.
Josué Cardona 0:34
I’m so happy we’re talking about this movie
Link Keller 0:37
new animated movie, on Netflix, and it is very fun. And I watched it earlier this week, and I wanted to talk about it with you.
Josué Cardona 0:49
There’s so much to talk about. Regarding this movie, I loved it. I loved it so much. It’s so good. Oh, yeah. What do you what do you want to start? General reactions? notes? I hope you got notes.
Link Keller 1:05
I thought about taking notes. But then I wanted to actually just sit and enjoy the movie. So I made myself put my notebook away. I know so unlike me, huh? Yeah. The animation.
Josué Cardona 1:18
I don’t believe you. I Believe there are notes somewhere?
Link Keller 1:22
Well, in my smooth brain. There’s a few rattling around in there.
Josué Cardona 1:28
Yep.
Link Keller 1:29
Yeah, so it was animated by Sony. Interactive animation, Sony animation
Josué Cardona 1:37
sony playstation
Link Keller 1:39
The same the same people who did or the same group who did spider-man into the spider-verse, which is one of the most beautifully animated movies I’ve ever seen, and definitely my favorite superhero movie of all time. I don’t know that I loved the Mitchell’s versus the machines more than into the spider-verse. Like that’s maybe unattainable. But I did really enjoy it. And you could absolutely see some of the really cool design elements they included in spider-verse were carried over into this new piece of animation is really fun. I love when they add the extra little squiggly lines on top. It’s very fun.
Josué Cardona 2:22
Yeah, I think I think I don’t think they’re different animations, right? Like, I think it’s the same. They use all of the same tricks. Again, I’m sure there’s something different. But there’s something even the one of the coolest things about the spider about into the spider-verse was that the different the people from the different dimensions were illustrated at different frames per second.
Link Keller 2:45
mmhmm. Yeah, they were animated. Not exactly how they would have been animated in the time that they’re referencing but using similar techniques to pull that that like realness of like Yeah, no, this is like Noir. comic book. And this is Looney Tunes style, comic style. Yeah, it’s really fun.
Josué Cardona 3:08
And so here I think they did it with the with the drawings on top, rather with all the sketches and stuff. Those seem to absolutely look like they were drawings come to life versus the other animation. So I think they did a nice job, too. Yeah, what’s so cool
Link Keller 3:21
they did they did they also had some some parts were 2d animated. Some parts were 3d animated. Some parts were more like stop motion style. They did. They included some like live action pieces that were included in there, which adds this like extra cool collage effect, which really fit the sort of vibe that they were going for. Some really, really cool stuff. This is a movie I’m going to definitely watch again, if only so that I can spot more cool animation things.
Josué Cardona 3:58
It was just so much fun. It was so good. So good. Yeah, yeah. I think I had seen a tik tok about it. And I sent it to all my friends. And then it wasn’t until you told me this is what we’re talking about. So you have to watch it. So thank you, because otherwise I would have I don’t think I would have watched it yet. It’s good
Link Keller 4:20
I okay, so I was on Twitter and I don’t remember who posted it. I don’t remember even like what they said I just remember that somebody posted an opinion about the mitchell’s versus the machines. And I was like, Huh, and then one of my friends posted in our group discord and was like, watch it now. And they are one of my animation. Animation snob friends, who have very specific tastes when it comes to animation. And that was that was a sell point for me, I was like okay, I’ll check it out.
Josué Cardona 4:59
What was the opinion Yeah, on Twitter that you saw,
Link Keller 5:01
I don’t remember. I think it was like somebody was saying it was nice but. and like, they elaborated on that, but I don’t I do like my brain did not save that information.
Josué Cardona 5:12
Now there was there was yeah uh where do we start?
Link Keller 5:16
I have some critiques but I will save them for later. I think that there are more joyful awesomeness to be considered before we get to the more critical stuff.
Josué Cardona 5:28
Yeah, my favorite thing about it was the there was, how spoilery can we be? basically there’s a lot of like, one of the themes, obviously, is that this this main character, Katie, she loves animation. So like, the the movie, in many ways is like, we’re seeing things from her perspective, in a way. So so the, the sketches, the the 2d animation, and all these things. That’s her style, like we’re seeing it the way we’re seeing the world the way she does. And she’s got the this relationship with her father, that is, you know, like, the father just doesn’t get her. Right. There’s those moments. I don’t. He doesn’t understand me. You never, you never like
Link Keller 6:13
parents just don’t understand
Josué Cardona 6:15
the don’t understand. And I mean, that’s the thing that we talk about so much. It’s this, this is I don’t think that there’s a worse thing to do to someone who cares about you or you care about who then like, just completely disregard or, you know, take a dump on the things that they like, or that they enjoy, like the things that are meaningful to them. Right and this is so meaningful to her and she in her father is just like uhhhh
Link Keller 6:46
her dad, her dad. Absolutely. Yucks her yum. And it’s something that we talk about on this show regularly is like don’t don’t yuck people’s yum it doesn’t have to be your yum, but don’t yuck it because you never know when that yuck is gonna stab you deep into your soul and make you want to abandon your whole family because it hurts so bad.
Josué Cardona 7:07
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Guess what, parents? Nobody can dig that knife deeper. No one can yuck harder than you. Oh, it hurts. Yeah. And then. And then there’s like, the opposite versions of that, right? Where she finally like, Oh, she’s like, Oh, I found my people. And there are people who appreciate what I do. And, and the brother right with their brothers using the metaphor of like, a, like dinosaurs are his thing. Right? That’s like his special interest, just like is this his favorite thing in the world? He like, you know, like, do you think that if two Raptors like, you know, like, one the Raptor leaves the pack? Like, do you think the other actor would be okay?
Link Keller 7:48
you know, Raptors, they hunt in pairs, and what is gonna happen when one of the Raptors goes away, and there’s only one Raptor left be...
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By Geek Therapy Network#299: Link and Josué chat about The Mitchells vs. the Machines, what counts as a dysfunctional family, and how the movie talks about social media.
Transcript
Josué Cardona 0:07
Welcome to gt radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about, my name is Josué Cardona. And I’m joined by Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:20
What’s up gamers?
Josué Cardona 0:23
And only Link Keller? Lara is on vacation from the show. What are we talking about today?
Link Keller 0:29
We are talking about the Mitchell’s versus the machines.
Josué Cardona 0:34
I’m so happy we’re talking about this movie
Link Keller 0:37
new animated movie, on Netflix, and it is very fun. And I watched it earlier this week, and I wanted to talk about it with you.
Josué Cardona 0:49
There’s so much to talk about. Regarding this movie, I loved it. I loved it so much. It’s so good. Oh, yeah. What do you what do you want to start? General reactions? notes? I hope you got notes.
Link Keller 1:05
I thought about taking notes. But then I wanted to actually just sit and enjoy the movie. So I made myself put my notebook away. I know so unlike me, huh? Yeah. The animation.
Josué Cardona 1:18
I don’t believe you. I Believe there are notes somewhere?
Link Keller 1:22
Well, in my smooth brain. There’s a few rattling around in there.
Josué Cardona 1:28
Yep.
Link Keller 1:29
Yeah, so it was animated by Sony. Interactive animation, Sony animation
Josué Cardona 1:37
sony playstation
Link Keller 1:39
The same the same people who did or the same group who did spider-man into the spider-verse, which is one of the most beautifully animated movies I’ve ever seen, and definitely my favorite superhero movie of all time. I don’t know that I loved the Mitchell’s versus the machines more than into the spider-verse. Like that’s maybe unattainable. But I did really enjoy it. And you could absolutely see some of the really cool design elements they included in spider-verse were carried over into this new piece of animation is really fun. I love when they add the extra little squiggly lines on top. It’s very fun.
Josué Cardona 2:22
Yeah, I think I think I don’t think they’re different animations, right? Like, I think it’s the same. They use all of the same tricks. Again, I’m sure there’s something different. But there’s something even the one of the coolest things about the spider about into the spider-verse was that the different the people from the different dimensions were illustrated at different frames per second.
Link Keller 2:45
mmhmm. Yeah, they were animated. Not exactly how they would have been animated in the time that they’re referencing but using similar techniques to pull that that like realness of like Yeah, no, this is like Noir. comic book. And this is Looney Tunes style, comic style. Yeah, it’s really fun.
Josué Cardona 3:08
And so here I think they did it with the with the drawings on top, rather with all the sketches and stuff. Those seem to absolutely look like they were drawings come to life versus the other animation. So I think they did a nice job, too. Yeah, what’s so cool
Link Keller 3:21
they did they did they also had some some parts were 2d animated. Some parts were 3d animated. Some parts were more like stop motion style. They did. They included some like live action pieces that were included in there, which adds this like extra cool collage effect, which really fit the sort of vibe that they were going for. Some really, really cool stuff. This is a movie I’m going to definitely watch again, if only so that I can spot more cool animation things.
Josué Cardona 3:58
It was just so much fun. It was so good. So good. Yeah, yeah. I think I had seen a tik tok about it. And I sent it to all my friends. And then it wasn’t until you told me this is what we’re talking about. So you have to watch it. So thank you, because otherwise I would have I don’t think I would have watched it yet. It’s good
Link Keller 4:20
I okay, so I was on Twitter and I don’t remember who posted it. I don’t remember even like what they said I just remember that somebody posted an opinion about the mitchell’s versus the machines. And I was like, Huh, and then one of my friends posted in our group discord and was like, watch it now. And they are one of my animation. Animation snob friends, who have very specific tastes when it comes to animation. And that was that was a sell point for me, I was like okay, I’ll check it out.
Josué Cardona 4:59
What was the opinion Yeah, on Twitter that you saw,
Link Keller 5:01
I don’t remember. I think it was like somebody was saying it was nice but. and like, they elaborated on that, but I don’t I do like my brain did not save that information.
Josué Cardona 5:12
Now there was there was yeah uh where do we start?
Link Keller 5:16
I have some critiques but I will save them for later. I think that there are more joyful awesomeness to be considered before we get to the more critical stuff.
Josué Cardona 5:28
Yeah, my favorite thing about it was the there was, how spoilery can we be? basically there’s a lot of like, one of the themes, obviously, is that this this main character, Katie, she loves animation. So like, the the movie, in many ways is like, we’re seeing things from her perspective, in a way. So so the, the sketches, the the 2d animation, and all these things. That’s her style, like we’re seeing it the way we’re seeing the world the way she does. And she’s got the this relationship with her father, that is, you know, like, the father just doesn’t get her. Right. There’s those moments. I don’t. He doesn’t understand me. You never, you never like
Link Keller 6:13
parents just don’t understand
Josué Cardona 6:15
the don’t understand. And I mean, that’s the thing that we talk about so much. It’s this, this is I don’t think that there’s a worse thing to do to someone who cares about you or you care about who then like, just completely disregard or, you know, take a dump on the things that they like, or that they enjoy, like the things that are meaningful to them. Right and this is so meaningful to her and she in her father is just like uhhhh
Link Keller 6:46
her dad, her dad. Absolutely. Yucks her yum. And it’s something that we talk about on this show regularly is like don’t don’t yuck people’s yum it doesn’t have to be your yum, but don’t yuck it because you never know when that yuck is gonna stab you deep into your soul and make you want to abandon your whole family because it hurts so bad.
Josué Cardona 7:07
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Guess what, parents? Nobody can dig that knife deeper. No one can yuck harder than you. Oh, it hurts. Yeah. And then. And then there’s like, the opposite versions of that, right? Where she finally like, Oh, she’s like, Oh, I found my people. And there are people who appreciate what I do. And, and the brother right with their brothers using the metaphor of like, a, like dinosaurs are his thing. Right? That’s like his special interest, just like is this his favorite thing in the world? He like, you know, like, do you think that if two Raptors like, you know, like, one the Raptor leaves the pack? Like, do you think the other actor would be okay?
Link Keller 7:48
you know, Raptors, they hunt in pairs, and what is gonna happen when one of the Raptors goes away, and there’s only one Raptor left be...