In this episode we triangulate positions and welcome to the podcast Michael Trautman via zoom. We learn about how he gave up his pursuit of a law degree to become a clown and how that decision led him to perform all over the world.

We discuss the creative process, how to create content with a group and how he approaches coming up with new material. We also learn what a disco clown is. A great conversation with one of the great performers and teachers the variety world has to offer. We also learn what a disco clown is. A great conversation with one of the great performers and teachers the variety world has to offer.