Cale is joined by Fr. Michael Ward, Senior Research Fellow at Blackfriars Hall, University of Oxford, and Professor of Apologetics at Houston Baptist University. They discuss Fr. Michael's role in the recent film The Most Reluctant Convert which tells the story of C.S. Lewis. They also discuss Lewis's relationship with J.R.R. Tolkien and the role of reason and imagination in evangelizing the culture today. Plus, Fr. Michael shares what he believes the true climax of The Lord of the Rings is - the answer may surprise you! Cale also looks at documents from the Dead Sea Scrolls and considers: why did John the Baptist doubt that Jesus was the Messiah?

Stream the movie here: CS Lewis Movie 

Read Fr. Micheal's article here: Peak Middle-earth: Why Mount Doom is not the Climax of The Lord of the Rings - An Unexpected Journal  

Learn more about Fr. Michael and his work here: https://michaelward.net/ 

Podcast: CS Lewis, Catholicism, and “After Humanity” - Relevant Radio