Eva and Gyonne talk with singer and activist Caitlin Schaap and artist Jorge Coffie on the long awaited migration from the Caribbean to the Netherlands. How did they experience this? They speak about prepping for the move, different motives of moving and financial risks that come with this. But also about the classist and value creative element of the educational system, and the semi-indoctrination that is implemented regarding moving abroad because of a more qualitative higher education and self-exploitation. 

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